Jump to content
oneBoro Forum

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 1.3k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Top Posters In This Topic

Popular Posts

So the millionaires have called a draw in the biggest *** competition and we could get on with the football Enjoyed the day, observations, comforting to see the same fake stone island stall in De

my reply    

They'll be liquidated if there's not.

Posted Images

5 minutes ago, MadAmster said:

Just heard that the EFL is withholding TV monies from DCFC until we come out of Admin. Is it paranoia or are they doing their best to make life difficult? We have to have sorted the non-footballing debts before we are allowed out of Administration. The EFL is keeping money that could be used to pay off the debts until we've paid off the debts.....  

I think the EFL are holding back the money until the Admin have proved DCFC is going to fulfil its fixtures. Considering the Admin's job is to reduce the debt they don't seem to be selling many assets, Williams off to Chelsea will probably cover the golden ticket fund but actual debts they seem to be more intent on getting them dismissed than paying them.

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Mr_Maz said:

you glory hunter!

if the JC Arena is 20km from you, then other clubs aren't that far off.

PSV was my closest stadium (less than 1km), now, it's technically Utrecht, as I moved to Breukelen

Still my closest club and they do play a nice brand of football (most of the time). I'd like to pick and choose games as a neutral but you have to have a club card..... Shame. When I first moved here in '84 I lived about 800 yards from de Meer, their original ground. Went half a dozen times and then stopped going regularly as they were so superior to the oppo that they were invariably 3 up inside 20 to 25 minutes. At that point in a game it was as if an Armistice had been signed, if you don't try to catch up, we won't humiliate you. As a spectacle the game was over. I can get to Breukelen in about 25 minutes by car from Aalsmeer.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Gary Neville's comments would have held more weight if he had and his brother hadn't bankrolled Salford in to the EFL in the same season that their hometown club went under.

Salford replaced Bury in the EFL.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, MadAmster said:

Still my closest club and they do play a nice brand of football (most of the time). I'd like to pick and choose games as a neutral but you have to have a club card..... Shame. When I first moved here in '84 I lived about 800 yards from de Meer, their original ground. Went half a dozen times and then stopped going regularly as they were so superior to the oppo that they were invariably 3 up inside 20 to 25 minutes. At that point in a game it was as if an Armistice had been signed, if you don't try to catch up, we won't humiliate you. As a spectacle the game was over. I can get to Breukelen in about 25 minutes by car from Aalsmeer.

yeah, the club card thing makes it annoying.

I went to an Ajax vs Utrecht game pre covid, it was so one sided! on the plus side the free beer and food in the hospitality was great.

I've been to Aalsmeer a few times, there is a guy who sells Keter tuinhuises from his farm near there, that I've used a few times.

 

Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, estonpidge said:

I think the EFL are holding back the money until the Admin have proved DCFC is going to fulfil its fixtures. Considering the Admin's job is to reduce the debt they don't seem to be selling many assets, Williams off to Chelsea will probably cover the golden ticket fund but actual debts they seem to be more intent on getting them dismissed than paying them.

I can see where you're coming from Pidge, however, there is another way of looking at it, keep the players and have a better chance of staying up and we are a much better prospect for prospective buyers who may be prepared to go higher if others start over-bidding them. The more money we get in, the more we can pay our creditors. My preference would be to pay off all creditors 100%. I did come up with an idea whereby Mel lends the club the money to pay off the creditors and thereby becomes one himself, he writes off the £140M we owe him. The club leaves Admin and he gets 25% of the new debt up front. The rest is paid back over time, £2M at the start of each season and 25% of any profits made each financial year until the interest free loan is paid back to him. I'd also have Derby (and preferably the rest of the EFL teams) present a budget before the start of every season to the EFL, as happens here in the Netherlands. The budget has to be believable. Projected income and projected outgoings, a club knows then how much "extra" it has to buy players. The idea is to NOT make a loss. If, due to circumstances, you do make a loss, each subsequent year's budget has to include a realistic plan on how, and over what reasonable time scale, the club will pay off their debts. Failure to produce a realistic, believable budget sees the club getting it thrown back at them to amend and keep to the amendments. Failure to do so will lead to an immediate points deduction. Recurring infringements can see a club thrown out of the League. That would ensure nobody could end up where we currently are.

 

  • Like 4
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Mr_Maz said:

yeah, the club card thing makes it annoying.

I went to an Ajax vs Utrecht game pre covid, it was so one sided! on the plus side the free beer and food in the hospitality was great.

I've been to Aalsmeer a few times, there is a guy who sells Keter tuinhuises from his farm near there, that I've used a few times.

 

Hospitality at the JCA is, indeed, very good. I've got a Scots mate who keeps threatening to take me to a Utrecht game. Must do it one of these days.

Link to post
Share on other sites

In my opinion it’s high time an independent body dealt with these things or certainly advised and had powerful input.

For those who remember 1986, the constant changing of position by the EFL was monstrous, you just thought you had a fingers in all the dam holes and the issue would be sorted, Then the EFL drilled some more and you were having to strip off your socks and use your toes as you were all out of fingers.

Im not saying that the EFL and it’s actions are not warranted, I’m saying that the way they do things and how they are perceived makes them look like they are disjointed and one section undermining the other, Im sure if we had all the facts this isn’t the case, but looking from afar without it you don’t get a favourable impression of them.

 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

If I was an independent creditor of any football club and watched how administrators worked in this case, I would certainly be thinking about cash-on delivery to them from now on.

How the Derby Administrators are working also baffles me as to an outsider they should be working for the creditors, everyone else is secondary.

I know for Football the EFL requirements make more hoops to jump through as you have 100% football debts and fit and proper owners tests, but from the bits of info I’ve found in this case the man who called in the administrators and selected them, is a creditor too both directly as owner and indirectly through the various interwoven loans, guarantees all owners do. As the EFL is conflicted in these matters, so I think are football club owners, imo if you are going into administration as a football club, then an independent footballing body appoints the administrators and monitors them, and reports to the EFL and the fans how things are going and showing that no shady chicanery is going on. 

 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, estonpidge said:

It does appear that the rules a tweaked on a case by case basis, no rules are followed in full, is Michael Masi involved?

The argument is always given that each case is dealt with on its merits and needs flexibility, as a fixed method could give rise to round pegs in square holes solutions. 

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Naisby said:

The argument is always given that each case is dealt with on its merits and needs flexibility, as a fixed method could give rise to round pegs in square holes solutions. 

I fully understand that but even 'milestones' seem to change if you do this then we'll do that etc.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Latest Posts

    • imo, anyone who criticises Marcus T either doesn't see us playing very often or doesn't have a particularly good understanding of the game. Not meaning to sound harsh, but his contribution to the team is very clear to see. He's not perfect by any means, but then not many players are, especially at this level. If you're just simply looking for players to criticise then there are usually about 8 or 9 players you should start with before Mr T each game  
    • I honestly believe a full season under Wilder in the LCM role would show everyone just how good he is. I think if you took him out of our midfield you'd see how bad and unbalanced it is. McGree and Crooks won't work because neither of them cover enough ground or do the defensive side of the game.  Howson I love but let's be honest he's not a traditional out and out CDM. He losses the ball too often in bad positions and his positioning for CDM can be quite poor. He brings commitment, energy and workrate though.  For me in midfield we need a LWB, CDM and an RCM. I would drop Crooks to the bench or move him on. I know that he's scored ten goals this season but I believe we can sign players that more suit Wilders system with energy, pressing and intensity. I would keep him for the bench but personally would look to replace him in the starting team. Tavernier was in the Top 10 for both Key Passes and Tackles Won. He was ranked 3rd for passes in the final third. He's expected goals and assists combined for this season was 15. I could see him getting 15-20 goal contributions in a full season under Wilder. He had 10 this season and has shown real signs of improvement. He does a lot more than what people realise for the team.  Tavernier was given corners because he was the only real left-footed option in the team. I do agree though that most of his deliveries were relatively poor considering he's our designated corner kick tacker they didn't look practiced.
    • Wouldn't call it interesting personally (i.e. not sure what there is to draw from it), think it just reinforces the club are happy they moved on from him. I can't remember the last time they did a season long goals montage so I could be wrong but it feels like this alone is a little out of the ordinary and perhaps only put together because Wilder is at the helm. I think the club is just continuing to want to push Wilder and positivity around him, that's how they approached the Season Card campaign too. It's not necessarily wanting to reflect on the season just gone as a whole but more to give an idea of what's to come.
    • I don't think corner taking ability is really something that pushes someone over that £10m threshold. He can be both one of our better corner takers, and still not be a particularly good corner taker, but that really feels like grasping at straws for something to still criticise him with. 
    • For what it’s worth with Tav, I genuinely think he would flourish as a left wing back, and simplified his game.  Tav travels well with the ball, is energetic and I can’t fault his work ethic at all. He always puts a shift in. But I just think he could use it so much better than he is currently doing from watching him this season. I still think he has some work to do in the final third, which ironically was where we struggled most to break teams down. I just don’t think he’s there yet and I don’t think he does a job which an additional player in midfielder couldn’t do (he’s replaceable).   For a player who takes corners, you’d expect better delivery on a more consistent basis for him to be worth 10m + which some are quoting on various platforms.    I realise that Tav is very polarised on the opinion poll. Like I say, I don’t hate him and think he’s ‘bad’, he’s just not consistent enough yet to be deemed as integral to how we play in midfield in my view  

×
×
  • Create New...