Not1ofTheFickleFans 85 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Neverbefore said: So far this season per game... Akpom had 1 unsuccessful touch - riis averaged 3 a game last season. Akpom had 1.7 disposessions - riis averaged 1.8 last season. Akpom had 70.3% successful passes - riis averaged 60 last season. Although akpom is hardly a saviour or ball retention master, he has outperformed riis in all those categories, and thats compared to riis's best season last year. Better off just keeping akpom for that role than spending 8mil. Is Riss going to be playing the deeper role though? Or is he the one that is arriving into the box to stick it in the next, similar to Forss? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,942 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, AllBoro10 said: Can keep replying to me as much as you want, I think he would be a great signing. I like him and hope we get him. And he might well be. All I'm saying is that there are a lot of red flags there for me, and it feels a lot like the Britt signing right now. I hope he proves me wrong if we do sign him but he'd be the least exciting of all the names for me. I'd rather go with muniz on loan and spend the cash elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,942 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 minute ago, wilsoncgp said: How did Akpom do under Warnock in that respect, by the way? 0.5 dispossessions pg 1.5 unsuccessful touches pg 50.8% passing pg - cavaet being he only averaged less than 7 passes per game so he really wasn't being involved enough to make much of a conclusion there. Link to post Share on other sites
LinoJo3 3,191 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 hour ago, LOAM said: For quite some time now Boro has been the place strikers come to die. It’s because we’ve often gone for the big fish in a small pond striker because they are a big name and getting goals. These type of players like britt and Rhodes can struggle because their former teams were fully set up to play to their strengths and cover their weaknesses, it’s not so much we ruin them we just expose flaws in their game asking them to do more than they’re used to. Plus we did put Bamford on the map when most people thought he’d never do much and although we got ripped off for fletcher you could say we did the same for him aswell. Link to post Share on other sites
AllBoro10 2,235 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Neverbefore said: And he might well be. All I'm saying is that there are a lot of red flags there for me, and it feels a lot like the Britt signing right now. I hope he proves me wrong if we do sign him but he'd be the least exciting of all the names for me. I'd rather go with muniz on loan and spend the cash elsewhere. I would like Riis and Muniz failing that I would go Larsen but I just think we won’t end up signing him now for some reason. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,942 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Not1ofTheFickleFans said: Is Riss going to be playing the deeper role though? Or is he the one that is arriving into the box to stick it in the next, similar to Forss? Then were left with only akpom and watmore who can play that.role and both of those are a huge risk for various reasons Link to post Share on other sites
Not1ofTheFickleFans 85 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Will said: We have one, his name is Marcus Forss. What if Forss is injured or suspended or not playing well. Surely we need an alternative to Forss as the “poacher” Link to post Share on other sites
Not1ofTheFickleFans 85 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Just now, Neverbefore said: Then were left with only akpom and watmore who can play that.role and both of those are a huge risk for various reasons But we are told we are trying to get another striker too, such as Muniz that would play the deeper role Link to post Share on other sites
ElDaftardo 50 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 My dad died last week and one of the final conversations we had about our beloved Middlesbrough was, in football especially concerning Middlesbrough Football Club was the only opinion that matters should be our own view because we the fans have always had different opinions on who we should sign to be inside our team and we have always slated a footballer before they join but once they join we 1000% always get behind each and every signing until they become a boo boy then it's a different story 🤣🤣 13 Link to post Share on other sites
Will 2,958 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 Just now, Not1ofTheFickleFans said: What if Forss is injured or suspended or not playing well. Surely we need an alternative to Forss as the “poacher” I'd rather have a more diverse range of options up front than just loading up on two poachers, if I'm honest. Larsen offers that as someone with more ability on the ball, and a play style that utilises his physical size and strength more than Riis does. I'd rather we go for someone in the mould of Larsen if we can't get him, than pivot to a bigger Marcus Forss. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
JonnyMFC 1,535 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said: How did Akpom do under Warnock in that respect, by the way? I think that using any players stats under Warnock is an ununfair comparison to be making under any circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites
Not1ofTheFickleFans 85 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Will said: I'd rather have a more diverse range of options up front than just loading up on two poachers, if I'm honest. Larsen offers that as someone with more ability on the ball, and a play style that utilises his physical size and strength more than Riis does. I'd rather we go for someone in the mould of Larsen if we can't get him, than pivot to a bigger Marcus Forss. And that’s fine, it’s seems that’s what Boro preferred but as it stands Larsen is a no go. Let’s assume that deal is 100% dead in the water. With that in mind we can’t keep comparing cheaper options to him imo. I’m not saying Riis is better but he may be the next best available options at a young age. If he comes and scores 20 for a 2nd successive season in the championship surely his value is closer to £12m-£15m, and we can sell for a profit if we don’t go up 1 Link to post Share on other sites
LinoJo3 3,191 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, Not1ofTheFickleFans said: But we are told we are trying to get another striker too, such as Muniz that would play the deeper role That’s not Muniz game, he’s a pretty old fashioned looking CF if you watch him. Imo Riis would be an alternative to muniz. Wilder even talked about using Mcgree as a #10 if we can’t get the striker we want so that shows you what type of player he’s looking for to play up there. We moan about the clubs recruitment based on playing well against us and just looking at goal stats, but that looks exactly like what’s happening here with Riis. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 4,505 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, JonnyMFC said: I think that using any players stats under Warnock is an ununfair comparison to be making under any circumstances. I don't even think warnock used to look at the stats himself lol 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Boroinredcar 170 Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 41 minutes ago, Barnaby said: As it stands IMO, we are just two/maybe only one player, short of an outstanding team...I've never been this excited for years...so excited I'm hoping to travel to the Reading match...risking my marriage and everything Miles away at present. Need 4 players minimum. Link to post Share on other sites
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