"KM" 1,656 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Craig saying how it is. I know it will upset a few but I agree with him. 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RiversideRed 1,216 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Smokedsalmon said: It's a bit wild seeing Craig Johns coming out with lines like this. "Get this will upset some, but ultimately Payero has been all hype, no substance. Injuries haven't helped, but odd glimpses at Cardiff the only time in 14 appearances he looked good. Watched him underwhelm for the U23s too. Didn't take his chances, and #Boro ultimately have better" The Boro propaganda machine really in full swing there! Poor guy. He didn't have a hope in hell here. Yeah could have made it subtle instead of it being obvious they've been told to write it. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RiversideRed 1,216 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, "KM" said: Craig saying how it is. I know it will upset a few but I agree with him. He's not. He's saying what the club want him to say. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,639 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 I think he's underselling how much injuries have impacted his season. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
JTG 2,267 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Smokedsalmon said: It's a bit wild seeing Craig Johns coming out with lines like this. "Get this will upset some, but ultimately Payero has been all hype, no substance. Injuries haven't helped, but odd glimpses at Cardiff the only time in 14 appearances he looked good. Watched him underwhelm for the U23s too. Didn't take his chances, and #Boro ultimately have better" The Boro propaganda machine really in full swing there! Poor guy. He didn't have a hope in hell here. I don’t necessarily think that’s unfair imo and I don’t really understand the cult following he seems to have amassed on here. 🤷♂️ Just one man’s opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
Smokedsalmon 1,247 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, "KM" said: Craig saying how it is. I know it will upset a few but I agree with him. The guy's come to a new continent at the age of 22, doesn't speak the language, had to talk to Neil Warnock through a translator app (actual Monty Python sketch stuff that by the way) and never got even a sniff at a run of games. He used to get thrown on with 10 minutes to go in our disjointed plan-less Warnock days where the ball would fly over his head every single time we had it, then suffered an injury just as he finally got going. Edited July 12, 2022 by Smokedsalmon 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,982 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Just now, Smokedsalmon said: The guy's come to a new continent at the age of 22, doesn't speak the language, had to talk to Neil Warnock through a translator app (actual Monty Python sketch stuff that by the way) and never got even a sniff at a run of games. He used to get thrown on with 10 minutes to go in our disjointed plan-less Warnock days where the ball would fly over his head every single time we had it, then suffered an injury just as he finally got going. Johns is talking out of his--or more accurately the club's--*** in my opinion. Not to mention he caught covid before the Mansfield game which would have been a real time to try and impress Wilder too. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Maz 2,899 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Sadly, it is the truth. I think everyone wanted him to succeed, but his performances and availability didn't allow it. He is a good player, but lacks the characteristics the manager wants. I think the nail in the coffin from the clubs perspective was {allegedly} wanting a loan back in Argentina, rather than in Europe. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
macapes 1,919 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Crackers said: Lol? The deal obviously suited boro In the end and all parties will be happy, if he goes. Less than 24 hours since you declared him "very much in Wilders plans". Made me smile. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Golden God 477 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 Muniz liking stuff again… 2 Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,639 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Smokedsalmon said: The guy's come to a new continent at the age of 22, doesn't speak the language, had to talk to Neil Warnock through a translator app (actual Monty Python sketch stuff that by the way) and never got even a sniff at a run of games. He used to get thrown on with 10 minutes to go in our disjointed plan-less Warnock days where the ball would fly over his head every single time we had it, then suffered an injury just as he finally got going. Johns is talking out of his--or more accurately the club's--*** in my opinion. He was only available for 14 games under Warnock, he started 7 of them and played in 3 others, 3 of the 4 games he stayed on the bench for were immediately after he'd arrived in the country. He was injured for Warnock's 4 other matches. He started 4 games in a row before getting injured and missing the next game, he started against West Brom and then had to come off injured. He was injured when Wilder took over, and then got injured again on the road to recovery during a behind closed doors match and missed all of December through fear of it recurring. He then got Covid, and when he recovered, he played significant lengths as substitute against Man U and Coventy in January, he then had a major injury within a minute of coming on against QPR and missed most of the games under Wilder. He never got a significantly long run of games because he kept getting injured. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AllBoro10 2,235 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Golden God said: Muniz liking stuff again… Surely he’s signing 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Cosmonaut 160 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Boroinredcar said: Flint looked a good signing when we bought him, others too. Let's see them earn the crown before putting them on the throne. True. Ha ha Hopefully the same won't be said about Lenihan in a couple of seasons' time Link to post Share on other sites
scotty189 931 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, AllBoro10 said: Surely he’s signing I'm being greedy hope it's a permanent deal 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Golden God 477 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, AllBoro10 said: Surely he’s signing Hope so! Link to post Share on other sites
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