Borodane 6,301 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Would be great to have Groningen realise that they can't keep an unhappy player so that we can get it wrapped up. He's certainly made it clear that he is not happy. But Groningen could also bank on him wanting to improve and keep the interest in himself alive and not sulk and play bad. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Borodane 6,301 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Tarmo Kink Army said: Get Larsen in as we have power in the move now so they might take lower They still hold the aces though with three years left on his contract. I doubt the player will drop performances if he wants to keep interest alive. Link to post Share on other sites
Foogle 2,104 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Borodane said: Would be great to have Groningen realise that they can't keep an unhappy player so that we can get it wrapped up. He's certainly made it clear that he is not happy. But Groningen could also bank on him wanting to improve and keep the interest in himself alive and not sulk and play bad. The issue they'd have with that tactic then is even if he did improve (he could easily have an off season) he'd be in the last year of his contract, that'll just about half his value either way. Couldn't see him signing a new contract. Edit: didn't realise they had the option of another year in the contract... makes their hand a bit stronger. Link to post Share on other sites
Dynamo Kev 1,557 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, LBP said: Mowatt's brilliant I think, not sure how realistic he is to sign but I'm sure Barnsley fans would have him over Styles he'd be class for us either in howsons role or either of the others. Link to post Share on other sites
NorwichBoro 180 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Matthew hoppe is now following the barber all the Middlesbrough players use as well, that man’s 100% in the building 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
LinoJo3 3,191 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Foogle said: The issue they'd have with that tactic then is even if he did improve (he could easily have an off season) he'd be in the last year of his contract, that'll just about half his value either way. Couldn't see him signing a new contract. Sounds like a similar situation we had with Tav, maybe not as desperate to leave but going into the last year of his contract and most likely pushing for the move behind the scenes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
JonnyMFC 1,535 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 I can see the Larsen deal going to the final day. It sounds to me like he doing his best to force Groningen's hand without coming across as being an *** and just downing tools. If it comes down the the final day or 2 and they haven't admitted defeat, then he puts in the transfer request and we swoop in. Link to post Share on other sites
AllBoro10 2,235 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 minute ago, NorwichBoro said: Matthew hoppe is now following the barber all the Middlesbrough players use as well, that man’s 100% in the building Hopefully the barber has dyed his hair back brown and got rid of that awful blonde wig 1 Link to post Share on other sites
LBP 3,035 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dynamo Kev said: he'd be class for us either in howsons role or either of the others. Yeah definitely mate I remember he and Lewis Cook used to boss us when we played Leeds, that's Clayton and Leadbitter we had back then as well They've got that bite we lack but very good footballers still Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 4,505 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Just now, JonnyMFC said: I can see the Larsen deal going to the final day. It sounds to me like he doing his best to force Groningen's hand without coming across as being an *** and just downing tools. If it comes down the the final day or 2 and they haven't admitted defeat, then he puts in the transfer request and we swoop in. just protecting his severance payment probs at agents advice. club is odds on using the time as leverage to try and push him towards giving in so they don't have to pay him out and can keep the whole fee. Link to post Share on other sites
JonnyMFC 1,535 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Rob said: just protecting his severance payment probs at agents advice. club is odds on using the time as leverage to try and push him towards giving in so they don't have to pay him out and can keep the whole fee. Probably! It's a dangerous game from our standpoint, If what i think is correct then there is no doubt in my mind that we will be aware of his intentions and are holding off going for anyone else, but if Groningen dig their heels in then we need a back up plan that we can implement on the final day. Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,982 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, LinoJo3 said: Sounds like a similar situation we had with Tav, maybe not as desperate to leave but going into the last year of his contract and most likely pushing for the move behind the scenes. As Foogle edited in, they actually have an option, so in essence he still has 3 years of his contract left. Link to post Share on other sites
El Guapo 525 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) Watching a few YouTube’s and of what I’ve seen live of him, I reckon Uche is a handful who’d score goals in the Dutch league…..if he fancies going the other way maybe we could include him in the Larsen deal if Groningen also fancy it. I don’t believe that graphic above about the eredivisie being better than the championship. I reckon a lot of the championship teams beat all bar the top 3/4 Dutch teams 9 times out of 10. (Ditto Portuguese league). Anyway, I’m sure it’s been thought of by those involved already. FWIW, I also don’t think we’ve dealt with Uche very well to be honest. We and he knows he doesn’t fit our playing style direction of travel but I think he’d be better here training rather than an outcast. Sends out all the wrong messages for me how we’ve dealt with a decent bloke and a useful in the right team (but not us) player/professional, it’s a bit shoddy imo, and by not having him here training as a ‘valued’ part of the group we’ve hamstrung ourselves as to how other teams will view him too. Edited August 9, 2022 by El Guapo 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TLF10 4,496 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 20 minutes ago, NorwichBoro said: Matthew hoppe is now following the barber all the Middlesbrough players use as well, that man’s 100% in the building Who is this barber? I want to use him. If he charges £10. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Rob 4,505 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 10 minutes ago, JonnyMFC said: Probably! It's a dangerous game from our standpoint, If what i think is correct then there is no doubt in my mind that we will be aware of his intentions and are holding off going for anyone else, but if Groningen dig their heels in then we need a back up plan that we can implement on the final day. would imagine we still looking elsewhere as well though Link to post Share on other sites
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