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1 hour ago, Changing Times said:

Regarding Dele Alli, can anyone think of another player who has declined so much at a relatively young age? You see players decline cos of age, and sometimes injuries do for them, but he’s 26 and as far as I’m aware he hasn’t been knackered with injury.  He’s basically gone from being a very good player who potentially could have played for anyone to a shadow of himself. I was trying to think of other examples but I’m struggling.

Mario gotze, was a world cup winning wonder kid ,earned a massive move to Bayern Munich aged 21 for 37 million, before ending up playing for PSV in the dutch league by the age of 27.

EDIT: also earned 63 caps for germany but has been in the squad since 2017.

 

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In Joe Harts defence. He actually achieve something in his career before his career nose dived. As @Changing Times said Alli at his peak was being linked with likes of Real and Utd and England future. Jose said Fergie told him when he took over at Utd the one player he needs to target is Alli. His career has nose dived without any notable achievements.

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4 minutes ago, tmcc said:

Mario gotze, was a world cup winning wonder kid ,earned a massive move to Bayern Munich aged 21 for 37 million, before ending up playing for PSV in the dutch league by the age of 27.

 

Isn’t he ill with something?

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1 minute ago, Changing Times said:

Isn’t he ill with something?

yeh, some muscular issue i believe

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10 minutes ago, PsychFur said:

I think David Bentley runs him close.

I think Alli was a bit better but yeah he moved to Spurs and then that was it.  Never the same player.

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5 minutes ago, tmcc said:

yeh, some muscular issue i believe

He's got myopathy apparently,  "a muscular disorder which affects the fibres in the muscles, meaning they do not function correctly"

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25 minutes ago, tmcc said:

last good season was 17/18? he got 5 goals and 3 assists in 25 games in 18/19 and  he got 8 goal  with 4 assists in 25 games in 19/20.  8 in 25 is pretty decent by any midfield standard.

 
So realistically he's had two bad seasons, i just don't see how that forces him into the championship so soon.Especially when he only went on loan 6 months with a transfer fee added of 40 million.  No championship side could afford him even he was willing to move down.

Also, he's only 26 and had 37 caps for England. Those facts coupled with his early career ability will probs lead to plenty of clubs well above championship level to be willing to take a punt on him.

I never said he would go to the championship, I think he'd be better off going abroad. 

But those two seasons you mentioned were not good seasons, you might look at the numbers and think it's okay for a midfielder, but he played as a second forward for most of those behind Kane. He only started just over half of spurs games across those two seasons. And most importantly, if you watched him at all, his overall performances dipped massively in that time period. 

 

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13 minutes ago, SmogDane said:

Freddy Adu 

One of thr greatest talents ever as a teen..  

At the age of 21 he failed a trial in the Danish league
 

I think he’s more of a cautionary tale about not overhyping kids.  I do wonder if he’d come through in another country, say the UK or Denmark, would things have been different for him? Not that he’d necessarily be a better player but he would be largely unknown, just another talented lad in an age group, free to try and make a go of his career.

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1 hour ago, Changing Times said:

I don’t know whether he’d got to the level Alli had though.  I don’t even remember him being that good really, just did a bit as a youngster and then got a big move.  Did arsenal sign Richard Wright about the same time and his career nosedived as well?

Alli definitely achieved more, he had a couple of very good seasons in the PL and then a good world cup, but Jeffers was seen as the next big thing and Arsenal paid a lot of money for him, about £9m I think.  There was the belief that he'd go on and be England and Arsenal number 9 for the next 10 years.

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