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1 hour ago, Humpty said:

I'd have Ben Gibson back in a heart beat if there was any possibility of it...

 

* Left sided centre back ✓

* Comfortable carrying the ball ✓

* A leader (which we lack) ✓

* Knows the club inside = seamless transition ✓

* Proven at this level ✓

 

I fail to see a drawback other than possibly the cost.

I agree with you on the left-side centre back, knows the club and is proven at this level to be a competent defender. I’m not sure in regards to him being that much of a leader but it’s difficult to say given his last two clubs.

I disagree with the statements that he’s comfortably on the ball, passing/dribbling and carrying the ball out of defence. If I’m being honest he’s relatively poor at them. I don’t think he’d suit our system either with the overlapping WCB’s. He’ll be overpriced given they paid £8m for him last summer.

I wouldn’t say no to him if the price was right at something like £3m-£4m. I wouldn’t expect him to be like McNair or Dijksteel with the ball at his feet. Having said that, if you could combine him with a LWB that can offer a lot going forward but also be able to do the defensive side of the game like Jones/Spence then it would be good for us.

At 29, I do expect him to return to the club at some point over the next 2-3 seasons though. Probably with a year left on his contract on the cheap or when it ends.

Unfortunately, people are clouded with their judgement simply because he’s a Boro lad. I’m not saying I wouldn’t have him, because for the right price I would but some of the attributes you think he has, he doesn’t in my opinion.

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Players returning to former clubs is always a decidedly risky move, the expectations are always higher and the time given to settle in is such that imho I’d never resign a former player.

There are always exceptions to the rule but a player who was good in an earlier squad was younger played with different team mates and under a different management and playing style. I’d rather go for someone who wants to play for us and the manager wants rather than the usual he is local, played for us before route.

Gibson however is possibly an odd exception though so I can see why he is being mentioned as a possible new signing, but I would look at the records of all players who return to a previous club Boro or elsewhere and their records are not that good, as I mentioned above the expectations and allowances made mean that they have to slot in and perform to their previous best levels on their debuts anything less and the debate and factionalism between fans views are there from the start.

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30 minutes ago, Naisby said:

Players returning to former clubs is always a decidedly risky move, the expectations are always higher and the time given to settle in is such that imho I’d never resign a former player.

There are always exceptions to the rule but a player who was good in an earlier squad was younger played with different team mates and under a different management and playing style. I’d rather go for someone who wants to play for us and the manager wants rather than the usual he is local, played for us before route.

Gibson however is possibly an odd exception though so I can see why he is being mentioned as a possible new signing, but I would look at the records of all players who return to a previous club Boro or elsewhere and their records are not that good, as I mentioned above the expectations and allowances made mean that they have to slot in and perform to their previous best levels on their debuts anything less and the debate and factionalism between fans views are there from the start.

Would agree most people who return are normally not close to what they used to be and that's usually the reason they have come back when they were at one point top rated talent moving on to better things.

I used to bring my step son who's a pools supporter to the matches through the karanka/monk/pullis years and remember showing him the 8-1 thrashing of city years ago and he could not get over that was the same stuart downing that he would watch every week, he thought was someone else with the same name lol

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17 hours ago, GrimsbyBoro said:

I spoke to my mate who’s an transfer analyst  on who we might be looking at.

A few names he mentioned going with the dodgy criteria i made up.

Keenan Bennetts, Omar Richards

outside of Germany Matthew Sorinola and possibly Danny Loader

I know nothing about any of them

- Bennetts (Forward) on paper doesn't look like the answer to our lack of goals. Haven't really seen a lot of him though to be fair, so can only judge him on his stats.

- Richards (Left-back) I thought always looked decent at Reading, offensively seems a bit lacking stats wise, but I recall him being pretty good at getting up the left hand side and supporting attacks. If we are wanting someone on the mold of Jones (but on the left), Richards probably isn't it.

- Sorinola (Left-back) can't say I've seen much of him since he's moved to Belgium. But I'm sure we were linked with him in the past when he was at MK Don's. He's 21 but bare in mind he's only really had one full season at League One level. From what I remember he looked decent at MK.

- Loader (Forward) might be an interesting pick up, he was highly rated at Reading. He didn't play much in the Championship, but that last season he fell out of favour. He's still only 21 and this season has been doing well in the Portuguese 2nd Division.

I assume these are more suggestions from your friend, rather than solid links?

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2 hours ago, GrimsbyBoro said:

Gibsons reported to be on something like 40k a week. 

Maybe he has a 50% wage reduction clause. With the way Norwich move up and down I can't imagine them not putting clauses like that in, when they sign players. 20k in the Championship and 40k in the Prem.

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2 minutes ago, Denzel Zanzibar said:

Could Gibson just be a loan, perhaps? 

I dont see Norwich loaning one of they main players to a promotion rival next season.

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28 minutes ago, DanFromDownSouth said:

I assume these are more suggestions from your friend, rather than solid links?

They aren’t links just the type of player he thinks we will look at if we are in the championship next season.

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14 minutes ago, TLF10 said:

I dont see Norwich loaning one of they main players to a promotion rival next season.

Depends if they have a replacement in mind with that lovely parachute money

Also, we loaned Spence to Forest

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13 minutes ago, Denzel Zanzibar said:

Depends if they have a replacement in mind with that lovely parachute money

Also, we loaned Spence to Forest

Dont think anyone expected forest to be a promotion contender. Sure they lost they first 8 or something.

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14 minutes ago, Denzel Zanzibar said:

Depends if they have a replacement in mind with that lovely parachute money

Also, we loaned Spence to Forest

To be fair, not sure anyone expected either of us to be promotion rivals with how the season started for us both lol

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