estonpidge 1,442 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Only want to sign players that the manager has approved, don't care what they are called or were they play as long as Wilder has final say. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Denzel Zanzibar 6,931 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Just now, estonpidge said: Only want to sign players that the manager has approved, don't care what they are called or were they play as long as Wilder has final say. This is the thing, Wilder doesn't. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Will 2,958 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, Denzel Zanzibar said: This is the thing, Wilder doesn't. Doesn't he? Because he thinks he does. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Borodane 6,246 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, estonpidge said: Only want to sign players that the manager has approved, don't care what they are called or were they play as long as Wilder has final say. In an ideal world everyone is on the same wavelength, but Wilder can't possibly know or scout every player in the world, so at some point he'll have to trust the analysts and the reports they come up with. If he personally has to check up on every player or only sign players he knows we are back to the limited pool of domestic players and even then there will be plenty of players he won't know much about. The important thing is that everyone knows the kind of style and recruitment we need. If Wilder requests an attacking left wingback with pace and a bit of technique it's up to the recruitment team to find said player and they will probably recommend a couple of targets for Scott and Wilder to choose from. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
estonpidge 1,442 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Liverpool had a baseball style transfer committee when Klopp arrived, it still exists to identify possible players and due diligence is carried out over an extended period but Klopp says yes or no before a player is signed. Since the change in tack their recruitment has been exceptional. We're not at the same level so the diligence required by us is more important and presenting a manager with a player they don't want only serves to damage the relationship. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
estonpidge 1,442 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Given Woodgate's scouting of Spanish and Portuguese leagues for Liverpool could be be used in a similar role for us while he's unemployed? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
TLF10 4,440 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 If Mogga is winding down on his managerial career so he can spend more time with his family on Teesside. He alluded to having a better “work life balance” in his final press conference as Blackburn then I would much rather have him scouting for us than anyone else. His ability to spot talent from lower and lesser leagues for little money has been evident plenty of times. Plus Wilder speaks very highly of him. Rightly so as he is a f**king legend of a man and human being. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
TLF10 4,440 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Kortney Hause set to leave Villa this summer in search of more game time. 26yr old left footed CB who can also play LB. 9 Link to post Share on other sites
scotty189 925 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 32 minutes ago, TLF10 said: If Mogga is winding down on his managerial career so he can spend more time with his family on Teesside. He alluded to having a better “work life balance” in his final press conference as Blackburn then I would much rather have him scouting for us than anyone else. His ability to spot talent from lower and lesser leagues for little money has been evident plenty of times. Plus Wilder speaks very highly of him. Rightly so as he is a f**king legend of a man and human being. Would love Mogga to be back involved, surely he'd want a proper mangers job though still has loads to offer and is top draw still Link to post Share on other sites
T-CIDER 615 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 30 minutes ago, TLF10 said: Kortney Hause set to leave Villa this summer in search of more game time. 26yr old left footed CB who can also play LB. Big fan of his, but can't see him dropping down divisions. Link to post Share on other sites
AnglianRed 6,229 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Borodane said: In an ideal world everyone is on the same wavelength, but Wilder can't possibly know or scout every player in the world, so at some point he'll have to trust the analysts and the reports they come up with. If he personally has to check up on every player or only sign players he knows we are back to the limited pool of domestic players and even then there will be plenty of players he won't know much about. The important thing is that everyone knows the kind of style and recruitment we need. If Wilder requests an attacking left wingback with pace and a bit of technique it's up to the recruitment team to find said player and they will probably recommend a couple of targets for Scott and Wilder to choose from. This goes back to the point I made when we found out Wilder was coming here. Everything's hunky dory as long as everyone is on the same page, is happy with their roles and understands how they are expected to work with the others. The problems come when individuals start trying to exceed their authority, override others, or operate behind peoples' backs. Hopefully what you've stated is how things are actually working. Link to post Share on other sites
AnglianRed 6,229 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, estonpidge said: Given Woodgate's scouting of Spanish and Portuguese leagues for Liverpool could be be used in a similar role for us while he's unemployed? If the club could do with more scouts, it certainly couldn't hurt. Link to post Share on other sites
Borodane 6,246 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, AnglianRed said: This goes back to the point I made when we found out Wilder was coming here. Everything's hunky dory as long as everyone is on the same page, is happy with their roles and understands how they are expected to work with the others. The problems come when individuals start trying to exceed their authority, override others, or operate behind peoples' backs. Hopefully what you've stated is how things are actually working. It will be when I replace Scott. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
GrimsbyBoro 1,959 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, AnglianRed said: This goes back to the point I made when we found out Wilder was coming here. Everything's hunky dory as long as everyone is on the same page, is happy with their roles and understands how they are expected to work with the others. The problems come when individuals start trying to exceed their authority, override others, or operate behind peoples' backs. Hopefully what you've stated is how things are actually working. One issue the Sheff Utd owners had with Wilder is that for a couple of positions he came to them with a list of one and wouldn’t consider other options. it will be interesting to see how Wilder and Scott etc work together. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
AnglianRed 6,229 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, Borodane said: It will be when I replace Scott. I'm not sure Danish football could cope with the talent drain! 😜 Link to post Share on other sites
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