Changing Times 12,344 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 hour ago, DocMartin said: Never go back. Cooper and Pallister should really tell us. Gibson is not a good idea Cooper was decent in his second spell. I couldn't really say the same about Pallister mind. It's a difficult one when you're talking about players going back as there will always be a comparison made to the first spell. Look at Downing, we got promoted with him as part of the squad in his second spell but I don't think he was that good overall, and certainly not a patch on the younger Downing. But, the only question for any potential signing has to be 'can they make us better now', if the answer is yes then you may as well go for it, if the answer is no then forget about any sentimentality and look elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,344 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Old Codger said: just remembered Baptiste .. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TheHolgate 683 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, DocMartin said: I agree that you are entitled to your opinion too. However, he was a liability and was nowhere near the player he was when sold look back the evidence rather than through rose tinted glasses. You failed to comment on Pallister too, was he a returning star as well? What a load of rubbish. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
BeeBee 73 Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 I'm also only old enough to remember Coopers 2nd spell. But for me he was always a wily old vet who could be relied upon in a pinch. Wouldn't have started him ahead of the others we had at the time, but was decent cover? Having just had a look over his first spell, only 1/7 of the seasons were spent in the top division, with 8/8 coming in the premier league for his return. That doesn't inherently mean either period featured a better player, but it might go some way to explaining the perceived disparity in performance. Link to post Share on other sites
sackrobson2 371 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) There’s no way Cooper’a second spell can be described as a mistake, he was with us for a long time in the Premier League and was always very reliable. pallister was however clearly finished, he turned like a bus in his second stint. some people come back and are bad, some are good, there is no hard and fast rule. Juninho came back twice, were they mistakes? Edited June 20, 2022 by sackrobson2 Link to post Share on other sites
TLF10 4,496 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 6 hours ago, DocMartin said: I agree that you are entitled to your opinion too. However, he was a liability and was nowhere near the player he was when sold look back the evidence rather than through rose tinted glasses. You failed to comment on Pallister too, was he a returning star as well? I did not comment on Pallister as I agree he should not have been resigned in hindsight. My memory of Pallister was when he played, which was not often, you could see his quality. Cooper on other hand was definitely a success on his 2nd return. Link to post Share on other sites
mj south 613 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 This whole topic regarding returning players not living up to their first stint is surely down to what points of their careers they were at when at our club, first time round the players are usually young and there on a upward trajectory regarding performance and ability, when Cooper and Pally returned they were in the latter years of their careers and on a downward slope and therefore not living up to the billing of how they once were. With regards to Ben Gibson at 28 I'd say for a defender he will now be hitting his peak so we should have the best 3 or 4 years of his career in terms of performance levels, I'd love him to return and genuinely think he will be a top player for us once again. Link to post Share on other sites
Juninhos magic hat 29 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Sol Brynn off to Swindon on season long loan 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,639 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) Sol Brynn going to Swindon on loan. Good luck to him. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
RichAcklam2404 929 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 That’s three keepers gone now…. Daniels and Hemming left. Link to post Share on other sites
JTG 2,267 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 minute ago, RichAcklam2404 said: That’s three keepers gone now…. Daniels and Hemming left. Bit in the Echo this morning basically just reiterating what we already know about the GK situation. They reckon Daniels will be moving on before the end of the window too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,639 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, RichAcklam2404 said: That’s three keepers gone now…. Daniels and Hemming left. For now, that poster a few pages ago seemed to think Hemming is going back to Kilmarnock (which would make sense). 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DocMartin 682 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 7 hours ago, Neverbefore said: Whatever your obsession with me is, can you please stop being contrary towards me at every possible opportunity? Imagine looking to see who liked a post made by someone else and writing a derogatory comment based on it. Eh……. 🤔 Get over yourself man 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Riverside94 962 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 You would think we bringing 3 keepers in then If we are letting them all go Link to post Share on other sites
Mr_Maz 2,899 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 31 minutes ago, RichAcklam2404 said: That’s three keepers gone now…. Daniels and Hemming left. There's also Brad James, he should be for again Link to post Share on other sites
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