Foxtrot Oscar Colin 607 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 2 hours ago, MikeyBoro said: 2 hours ago, SmogDane said: Question Of all the players that got promoted with us under Karanka .. How many of them were good enough for the PL? Gibson and ....? Stuani Link to post Share on other sites
SmogDane 4,052 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Tom said: I'm not sold at all on McGoldrick. As @Changing Times said, I expected us to have a bit more long-termism with Scott in place and the new model. But having said that, we need to bring in a fair number of players this summer, so if we get in 5/6 permanent, young, long term signings, having the odd freebie old timer in there to balance it out isn't the end of the world, especially if it allows Coburn to go and get games somewhere, as others have said. Would like to see him go to League 1 and really challenge himself. Do you really think we can find players that can cut the PL mustard too? Hence why I earlier asked the question of how many of our promotion winning players were good enough? If we plan to stay in this division, yes we surely should think for the future ... But as I see it now .. There is a great opportunity that we can actually smash the league this time ... We get players we want, cause Wilder pulls strongly ... And we have a competent manager, not a Donkey 🐴 I think McGoldrick can do a job ... Is a cheap option ... And wouldn't carry big wages into the prem, jf we go up ... Gather a team of skilled players that can help us get promotion, then we have to make s total revamp anyway after ... Link to post Share on other sites
BoroSmoggie 2,678 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Apparently sold 18,000 season tickets. How does this compare to previous? Link to post Share on other sites
"KM" 1,656 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 How many times has the Kieran Scott story been run in the last couple of days? Think it’s a load of **** personally. Link to post Share on other sites
Borodane 6,246 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, SmogDane said: Do you really think we can find players that can cut the PL mustard too? Hence why I earlier asked the question of how many of our promotion winning players were good enough? If we plan to stay in this division, yes we surely should think for the future ... But as I see it now .. There is a great opportunity that we can actually smash the league this time ... We get players we want, cause Wilder pulls strongly ... And we have a competent manager, not a Donkey 🐴 I think McGoldrick can do a job ... Is a cheap option ... And wouldn't carry big wages into the prem, jf we go up ... Gather a team of skilled players that can help us get promotion, then we have to make s total revamp anyway after ... I would at least hope they tried to bring players in that could also step up to the premier league instead of bringing too many short term solution so we have to go through it all again next summer regardless of which division we’re in. I’m not against a couple but it’s looking like a fair few loans will come in so to top it off with a 34 year old short term solution just seems a bit over the top. It’s not really mcgoldrick that I’m against, but I’m wary of too many short term solutions. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
tmcc 583 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Borodane said: I would at least hope they tried to bring players in that could also step up to the premier league instead of bringing too many short term solution so we have to go through it all again next summer regardless of which division we’re in. I’m not against a couple but it’s looking like a fair few loans will come in so to top it off with a 34 year old short term solution just seems a bit over the top. It’s not really mcgoldrick that I’m against, but I’m wary of too many short term solutions. think its nearly impossible for a championship without parachute payments to aqquire a player who could step up to the prem as most players who can make the step up are usually already playing the prem and would cost a fortune. so were forced to take punts on good proven championship-level players. Also hard to tell who can make the step as the quality gap is huge. Gayle is 20-30+ goal a season striker in the champ, but has never really come close to cutting in the prem. Ben Gibson was the best defender in the championship in the years he spent with us including our promotion. Yet, he hasn't really cut the mustard in the prem. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Tarmo Kink Army 1,122 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Rather the Simpson from Ipswich than McGouldrick Link to post Share on other sites
SmogDane 4,052 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, Borodane said: I would at least hope they tried to bring players in that could also step up to the premier league instead of bringing too many short term solution so we have to go through it all again next summer regardless of which division we’re in. I’m not against a couple but it’s looking like a fair few loans will come in so to top it off with a 34 year old short term solution just seems a bit over the top. It’s not really mcgoldrick that I’m against, but I’m wary of too many short term solutions. Ofc .. That would be ideal, to buy players who can cut the mustard ... But for now ... This feels like a one in a million chance this coming season ... And I am sure we will get the kind of signings you and others would like too ... But I guess the easy deals go first, like we see ... I trust fully in Wilder's plan ... Like tmcc also just wrote ... It's vey hard and expensive to find PL quality ... There's the odd Ramirez, who had issues ... And some others ... Mitrovic is a good example ... He absolutely smashes the championship but cannot be considered nothing but a bottom half PL player at best ... So I want us to be careful ...not to buy a load of good championship players on long term contracts, unless we want to stay in this division or plan on getting relegated in a jiffy It has to be a good balance of the two sides you and I represent when discussing strategy. Half full/half empty ... Link to post Share on other sites
Johnmfc81 902 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Is there any connection with Bauser negotiating the sale of Spence, and the continuing links of Scott to Manure? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Foxtrot Oscar Colin 607 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, Johnmfc81 said: Is there any connection with Bauser negotiating the sale of Spence, and the continuing links of Scott to Manure? 2 minutes ill give big Steve a call 😅 Link to post Share on other sites
Hendrie_7 1,068 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Looks like Bale's taken the easiest option and gone to the MLS 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NorwichBoro 180 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 payero going on an 18 month loan with option to buy 2 Link to post Share on other sites
BoroJake 2,331 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) Link to post Share on other sites
DurhamRed 2,043 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 I don't see the point in loaning out payero honestly as if he goes we need to sign another midfielder Link to post Share on other sites
BoroJake 2,331 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Just now, DurhamRed said: I don't see the point in loaning out payero honestly as if he goes we need to sign another midfielder 18 month loan doesn’t really make sense either to be honest. Can’t see it being true Link to post Share on other sites
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