SouthernSmoggie 4,242 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 30 minutes ago, Smoggy-in-VA said: I posted this on the Hull thread, but it makes more sense here: Something else to consider...In the past, teams have loaned players to us, and we responded by putting them on the bench. The consensus among neutrals is that CW is a great manager to develop young players (same with Cooper at Forest). Arsenal see Balogun as a future starter (I think), but he has a lot of developing to do. He could certainly do with at least one more season in the Championship, and I think we would be in prime position to have him again whether we are in the Championship or the Premier League. Just a thought...I have no inside info etc. Wouldn't be surprised at all if we got him for a full season. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ScarBoro 857 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Smoggy-in-VA said: I posted this on the Hull thread, but it makes more sense here: Something else to consider...In the past, teams have loaned players to us, and we responded by putting them on the bench. The consensus among neutrals is that CW is a great manager to develop young players (same with Cooper at Forest). Arsenal see Balogun as a future starter (I think), but he has a lot of developing to do. He could certainly do with at least one more season in the Championship, and I think we would be in prime position to have him again whether we are in the Championship or the Premier League. Just a thought...I have no inside info etc. Nothing against Balogun, and he may develop into a top player. I assume Arsenal would want his wages paid in full, though - maybe plus a loan fee for a full season. It seems an awfully large spend for someone who hasn’t yet proved his worth to us. Maybe better value for Premier League loans out there? Link to post Share on other sites
Redcar Rioja 5,975 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 20 hours ago, edinboro said: Does anyone think Bola could be the LCB we need? He played there under Warnock and did pretty well. I would play him there now if Fry is injured. Definitely not, he isn't tall enough or physically robust enough. Link to post Share on other sites
Redcar Rioja 5,975 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 7 hours ago, wilsoncgp said: Boyd-Munce isn't really a first-team player and was never meant to be when he was brought in, if he comes good then great, if not, it's not a big problem. McGree and Payero have both had sparks to them but have had a stop-start career here so far already. Full pre-season with Wilder under their belts and hopefully we'll get more out of them, still plenty of time yet anyway. As for the likes of Sporar, Connolly, Balogun, JLS... at the very least, we won't be stuck with them next season if we don't want them and that in and of itself is a big improvement on signing players on long-term contracts who we don't want after 6-12 months. Hell, even Bamba, Peltier and Taylor will only be here as long as we want them to be after this season, Lumley and Daniels only have an extra year on that and both signed on a free so we should at least be able to shift the keepers without worrying too much about a fee. That sounds like our recruitment is crap but at least it's only crap for a shorter time period contractually. I guess that's an improvement of sorts, albeit not what we were hoping for. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,283 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Redcar Rioja said: That sounds like our recruitment is crap but at least it's only crap for a shorter time period contractually. I guess that's an improvement of sorts, albeit not what we were hoping for. I wouldn't say it was good by any means but the glass half-full look at it would say that is less damaging than it has been for a while. It feels like every manager has had problems with prior decisions on where money is spent and plenty of them, the fact Wilder is seemingly going to have less issues on that front is partly down to the way we recruited at the start of this season. Technically Scott has only been in the building since the end of the summer transfer window, too. I'd be surprised if he had no influence at all in that window but the club was still having to pander a bit to Warnock during that time too. And to be fair to Scott, from what he told us, he was not expecting to be able to move on and find a new manager as soon as he did so I bet he was only starting to become truly aware of what he might need when Wilder came in. Again, given the short time the manager and the DoF have had together, they've not ended up in too bad a position when looking at preseason coming up. I get the scepticism, I'm not gonna tell everyone to get ready for a recruitment masterclass in the summer because I'm like every Boro fan who has been burned by our horrific recruitment. I'll believe it's better when I see it. Only time will tell if we are truly turning a corner but I'd like to think we aren't going to throw him under the bus because of the 1-2 windows he's been involved in. Fella needs time and a bit of patience, we've got to try and give him it or risk Gibson and Bausor thinking they're better off doing it themselves again. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
TLF10 4,496 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 I dont think we need two keepers in summer as one of Lumley or Daniels as back up are fine. We need a proper undisputed no.1. For all the clamour for Brynn. I think what he needs is a season loan at top end League 1 level as a no.1. Our fans are only asking for Brynn because we are sick of Lumley. Brynn has not actually been tested at any level beyond division 1 in Scotland 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Right footed Left winger 2 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 I do think there will be a bit of a change this summer. So I made a free XI Versus a Paid/Loan XI with subs Freebies XI GK- Sam Johnstone –West Brom LWB- Harry Toffolo - Huddersfield RWB- James Bree – Luton CB- Conor Goldson - Rangers CB- Alfie Mawson - Fulham CB-Kristian Pederson - Birmingham CM- Joe Ralls - Cardiff CM- Joe Rothwell - Blackburn CM- John Swift - Reading CF- Matej Vydra - Burnley CF- Josh Koroma - Huddersfield Sub1 – Tom Lawrence – Derby Sub2 – Jed Wallace – Millwall Sub3 – Matty Longstaff – Newcastle Sub4 – Reece Burke – Luton Sub5 – Tom Lockyer – Luton Sub6 – Jonjo Kenny – Everton Sub7 – (gk) Loris Karius – Liverpool Sub8 – Ben Osborn – sheff utd All free's are from Transfermarkt Cost/Loan XI Gk – Gavin Bazunu – Man City LWB – Jamal Lewis – Newcastle RWB – Kane Wilson – Forest Green CB – Ben Cabango – Swansea CB – Ben Gibson – Norwich CB – Jacob Greaves – Hull CM – Alex Scott = Bristol City CM – Krystian Bielik - Derby CM – John Lundstram – Rangers CF – Flo Balogun - Arsenal CF – Victor Gyokeres - Coventry Sub1 – (gk) Toby Savin – Accrington Sub2 – Callum Styles – Barnsley Sub3 – Joel Piroe – Swansea Sub4 – Elijah Adebayo – Luton Sub5 – Harry Souttar – Stoke Sub6 - Jack Rudoni – Wimbledon Sub7 – Keane lewis-Porter – Hull Sub8 – Antoine Semenyo – Bristol City 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TLF10 4,496 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 @Right footed Left winger. Good effort but some of them are ambitious mate. Haha. Sam Johnstone is off to the PL. Ben Gibson? He been a regular for Norwich in PL so not sure how he would end up here. He will be a big part of any promotion push for Norwich. I think Swans can command a big fee for Cabango and Piroe but we might be successful with a bid for Gyokores for around £3-4m Pedersen, despite struggling v us could be a smart option as a back up left footed CB and LWB. I am sure I read Adebeyo was out of contract in summer? Link to post Share on other sites
LBP 3,035 Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 Pedersen would be a solid addition for LCB Link to post Share on other sites
Denzel Zanzibar 6,972 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Bazunu on loan would be incredible but sadly I think there'll be PL teams already interested in him. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
GrimsbyBoro 1,968 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Denzel Zanzibar said: Bazunu on loan would be incredible but sadly I think there'll be PL teams already interested in him. Would be an interesting signing. Only seen him once or twice and he seems good with his feet. I read an article back in January on teams chasing him but he also said he doesn’t want to be back up anywhere. offering first team football and a dressing room full of country men could sway him. Link to post Share on other sites
Right footed Left winger 2 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 @TLF10Cheers fella, Agree with some, not a fan of Johnstone personally, would prefer Bazunu on Loan. Gibson, well be nice to bring him back, IF we go up. Adebeyo, Read the same, but Transfermarkt has him tied up to 2024. From the free list Toffolo and Pederson would really strengthen the left hand side of defence. Link to post Share on other sites
LBP 3,035 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Physical Presence Quick/On the shoulder type Link to post Share on other sites
Leesider 1,076 Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Callum O Hare scored again today. Good player this lad. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyL 2,565 Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 On 4/14/2022 at 8:59 PM, LBP said: Pedersen would be a solid addition for LCB We tried getting him in the recent window but couldn’t make it happen. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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