3 minutes ago, Rioch's Braves said:

Wilders record getting teams promoted speaks for itself Oxford, Norhampton and Sheff Utd, does anybody actually believe that Wilder doesn't feel he needs to make big improvements, some on here are starting to sound as fickle as the Mackem and Geordie fans. I honestly don't know where some of you are coming from.

We played crap we got beat get over it.

I seem to recall that our last Manager had a pretty good record for getting teams promoted as well yet there were plenty of dissenters. 

Are Preston the only club to of done the double over us this season 

1 minute ago, Redcar Rioja said:

I seem to recall that our last Manager had a pretty good record for getting teams promoted as well yet there were plenty of dissenters. 

He managed for 300 years so of course he had some success. Wilder has had success in significantly less years. 
 

warnock also had 100% relegation from the premier league record. 

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5 minutes ago, Rioch's Braves said:

some on here are starting to sound as fickle as the Mackem and Geordie fans. I honestly don't know where some of you are coming from

I don't think its as simple as you are making out. You obviously get a tiny minority who want the manager out after one result but I think the end of the season form poses as many questions about Wilder than it provides answers. 

I think the question marks are valid and I don't want to get rid of the manager. 

Just now, Redcar Rioja said:

I seem to recall that our last Manager had a pretty good record for getting teams promoted as well yet there were plenty of dissenters. 

His actual performance was the issue there. And the dire football being played. And the players he wanted to sign.

1 minute ago, Redcar Rioja said:

I seem to recall that our last Manager had a pretty good record for getting teams promoted as well yet there were plenty of dissenters. 

There's no way you can compare Chris Wilders style of football to Warnocks dinosaur style of football.

2 minutes ago, DurhamRed said:

Are Preston the only club to of done the double over us this season 

Hull too

Just now, sackrobson2 said:

He managed for 300 years so of course he had some success. Wilder has had success in significantly less years. 

What's their respective averages of Championship promotions over years in Management?

2 minutes ago, DurhamRed said:

Are Preston the only club to of done the double over us this season 

Hull.

Dunno if this will make anyone feel any better but here goes.

 

If we HAD done the business today, this goal would have kept us out of the playoffs. 🤢🤢🤢🤢

 

2 minutes ago, macapes said:

His actual performance was the issue there. And the dire football being played. And the players he wanted to sign.

Are you talking about Warnock or Wilder?

Just now, Redcar Rioja said:

What's their respective averages of Championship promotions over years in Management?

No idea but I would hazard a guess that Wilder has a far better % of promotion divided by seasons managed in the championship. 

I don't agree that teams have "worked us out". Do we really think that premier league coaches were incapable of working CW out? I think we just didn't have the quality. Up top we are lightweight, no matter who is up there. Coburn is the biggest, but he is just a kid, who isn't fully grown yet. CW's system needs pace on the wings. The only we get it on the left is to put Tav there, which hurts us centrally. I'm not sure what happened to Jones in the last several weeks, but he has looked more like what he is: a young, inexperienced player, playing in the championship for the first time. At the very least next year, we need a plan B on the right as well. All over the field we need a little more strength and leadership.

Let's see what the summer recruitment drive brings. I'll be interested to see who we keep...obviously, we will be selling Spence...wonder if any others will be sold.

1 minute ago, Smoggy-in-VA said:

I don't agree that teams have "worked us out". Do we really think that premier league coaches were incapable of working CW out? I think we just didn't have the quality. Up top we are lightweight, no matter who is up there. Coburn is the biggest, but he is just a kid, who isn't fully grown yet. CW's system needs pace on the wings. The only we get it on the left is to put Tav there, which hurts us centrally. I'm not sure what happened to Jones in the last several weeks, but he has looked more like what he is: a young, inexperienced player, playing in the championship for the first time. At the very least next year, we need a plan B on the right as well. All over the field we need a little more strength and leadership.

Let's see what the summer recruitment drive brings. I'll be interested to see who we keep...obviously, we will be selling Spence...wonder if any others will be sold.

It would be interesting to get a Sheff United perspective of what happened in Wilder's 2 Premier league seasons. 

I'm not going to pretend to know the definite answer but from the outside you do wonder if they took teams by surprise in their first season. 

As great as his first Premier league season was the second was equally poor. 

 

You can have no complaints missing out when you’ve lost twice to the shower of *** that we have. Preston Hull Bristol C Reading etc. Said it last week the squad isn’t good enough anyway