Referees performances

[Old Codger 3,992 4.6k]

Despite my misgivings on seeing his selection, I thought Mr Ward had a reasonable game. Got most of the major decisions right and don't recall any major howlers. Let a few fouls go early on but clamped down when it was needed. Enjoyed seeing the Millwall player's reaction when he got a yellow for delaying the free kick and although it cost us a possible chance, thought he was correct to stop the game swiftly when it looked like there was a possibility of a head injury. Added a decent amount of time on and in general kept the game flowing. The next man up for the Cup game is Oliver Langford who does seem to upset people now and again

https://www.change.org/p/efl-suspend-referee-oliver-langford

Hopefully we won't be adding our names 🙂

 

 

[TeaCider24 16,744 21.9k]

Yeah, I don't think he did much wrong.

Looking back at the disallowed goal, it seems like the ball was actually still in, and I think it would have been given with VAR.

But it's one of those tight margins where I can understand the decision, plenty of throw-ins are from balls that aren't actually out by the letter of the law.

[Old Codger 3,992 4.6k]

Without VAR , it is obviously down to the guys on the field and I didn't have a good view from the West Lower (north end), so all I could go by was reaction of South Stand and players. Didn't seem as though it was challenged too much by Crooks and Hackney and the linesman wasn't slow with the flag. Shame if it was legit as it would have been a good time to score and might have changed things, but I suppose that's football and until we get to the Prem, we just have to live with it. At least we weren't celebrating for three minutes before the deflation.  

[Humpty 4,560 10.1k]

He got all the major decisions right, including the disallowed goal and let the game flow. Credit where it's due.

[Redcar Rioja 8,076 7.9k]

Must admit he didn't steal the show and seemed to be even handed and impartial. Watching the "goal" live I didn't react as it looked like Crooks arrived half an hour too late with the ball looking well out. In terms of angles and officials positioning they don't have VAR or replays with lasers and frame by frame analysis and can only go with what they think and feel and the likelihood of probabilities are when it isn't totally clear. I would have given the ball as out and I'm a Boro fan. 

[Old Codger 3,992 4.6k]

Did Mr. Langford have a good game last night ? Thought he got the red card right but highlights don't show much else beyond goals. Was game kept moving and were any bookings justified?  Saturday will be officiated by Dean Whitestone. 

[Old Codger 3,992 4.6k]

Looks like Josh Smith in charge of Huddersfield game. One of the younger officials. Not sure if we've had him before but name doesn't ring a bell, so if we have, it hasn't left lasting scars.  

[Old Codger 3,992 4.6k]

Jeremy Simpson in charge at WBA. Usually pretty good.

[Old Codger 3,992 4.6k]

Tony Harrington listed as being in charge on Tuesday. Rather surprising as he is almost a local lad, but has a reasonable reputation (for a referee 🙂) .

[TeaCider24 16,744 21.9k]

8 minutes ago, Old Codger said:

Tony Harrington listed as being in charge on Tuesday. Rather surprising as he is almost a local lad, but has a reasonable reputation (for a referee 🙂) .

He's refereed our games before, including the opener against West Brom last year.

I can't remember him being particularly noticeable, which is a good thing for a referee.

[Old Codger 3,992 4.6k]

Mr Gillett for Saturday. Maybe the best ref at this level. Fingers crossed that he knows we employ half the Aussie national team and does the right thing 🙂

 

[HolgateHero 774 2.2k]

It seems we got a bit of luck from the ref, but then maybe it balanced out from last season! 🙏🙌

[Rob 6,084 9.3k]

i don't think it was luck tho, he clearly said the wrong thing to the ref and the rules have changed in summer to upgrade that sort of offence along with time wasting 

absolute helmet, i dunno why you even need to have a go at the referee when the decision went your clubs way in the form of a goal kick lol 

[Brunners 8,922 25.4k]

On 10/7/2023 at 8:21 PM, HolgateHero said:

It seems we got a bit of luck from the ref, but then maybe it balanced out from last season! 🙏🙌

Yeah it wasn't luck, it was a really *** dumb decision to say anything to the ref when you're on a yellow already. A yellow that very arguably could have been a red anyway. He was already on thin ice 

[Rob 6,084 9.3k]

14 hours ago, Brunners said:

Yeah it wasn't luck, it was a really *** dumb decision to say anything to the ref when you're on a yellow already. A yellow that very arguably could have been a red anyway. He was already on thin ice 

he must of said something pretty bad coz they are not usually that much of a snap fast decision, 

not heard anyone mention it, but maybe also he could of said something earlier in the game as well, that could make a ref snap like that too

often it will be a bit of a back and forth before the card comes out and sure if I remember it right he just turned around and carded him straight away.

maybe it will come out in the wash what happened when reports are turned in if they offer any sort of detail.

while im typing this just seen this on a sunderland site

https://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/football/sunderland-afc/latest-sunderland-afc-news/what-upset-sunderlands-dan-neil-before-red-card-vs-middlesbrough-plus-leeds-forward-explains-weird-moment-4363921
 

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What upset Sunderland’s Dan Neil before red card vs Middlesbrough plus Leeds forward explains weird moment

Some of the moments you may have missed during Sunderland’s 4-0 defeat at the Stadium of Light after Dan Neil’s red card.

Referee Jarred Gillett was booed off by the home supporters following Sunderland’s 4-0 defeat against Middlesbrough at the Stadium of Light.

Some will argue the official followed this season’s stricter refereeing guidelines, to book players for dissent, when he showed Sunderland midfielder Dan Neil a second yellow card on the stroke of half-time. Black Cats boss Tony Mowbray strongly disagreed with the decision when the match was still goalless, while momentum swung dramatically in the visitors’ favour following the incident.

Second-half goals from Sam Greenwood, Matt Crooks, Isaiah Jones and Marcus Forss resulted in a resounding win for the visitors. Here are some of the moments you may have missed:

What upset Dan Neil

Neil’s first yellow card came in the 17th minute for a foul on Middlesbrough striker Josh Coburn near the halfway line.

The midfielder then felt play should have been stopped when Boro full-back Tommy Smith dispossessed Jack Clarke on Sunderland’s right flank, before the visitors broke forward and Trai Hume made a tackle on striker Josh Cobern at the other end.

Both Hume and Neil appealed to the officials that Clarke had been fouled, with Neil’s frustrations directed at the referee from a distance. Gillett then pulled out a second yellow card as Neil was dismissed.

Coburn collides with Dan Ballard

Tempers subsequently boiled over just before the half-time whistle after Coburn threw himself into Sunderland defender Dan Ballard, leaving the Black Cats player on the ground. Ballard quickly jumped to his feet and squared up to his opponent, sparking players from both sides to clash.

Ballard and Coburn were then booked for their actions after being separated, with the first half ending in chaotic fashion.

Sam Greenwood’s weird moment

There were three former Sunderland players in Middlesbrough’s starting XI, including defender Paddy McNair, as well as Coburn and Greenwood who were both part of the Black Cats’ academy but never made a senior appearance for the club.

Greenwood, who is on loan from Leeds, admitted before the match his family and friends are mostly Sunderland fans, meaning his celebration was muted when he opened the scoring.

“It felt a bit weird to be fair but I’m just happy we got the three points,” Greenwood told Sky Sports after the match. “It’s always been a dream of mine since a little kid to walk out at the Stadium of Light but I’ve done it now and scored against them.”

Offside appeal for Middlesbrough’s third goal

After withstanding some early second-half pressure, Sunderland quickly became stretched at the back with a numerical disadvantage. That resulted in Middlesbrough substitute Morgan Rogers releasing Jones in space on the right, before the winger cut inside and converted the visitors’ third goal.

There were suggestions the Middlesbrough player was offside, with Luke O’Nien, who tangled with Boro forward Emmanuel Latte Lath during the move, appealing to the linesman after the goal had been scored.

Grant Leadbitter returns to the Stadium of Light

Former Sunderland midfielder Grant Leadbitter was back at the Stadium of Light as part of Middlesbrough’s coaching staff, sitting in the press box to analyse the game.

Leadbitter returned to Boro, where he also played between 2012 and 2019, to take up a coaching role within the club’s academy last year and is now part of Michael Carrick’s first-team staff at the Riverside.