Classless from Warnock.

15 hours ago, Neverbefore said:

 

Utter state of this comment. Arsehole

He just knows it shows him up as he couldn't get a tune out of Chuba

57 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said:

Classless from Warnock.

Kinda right though..

2 hours ago, TeaCider24 said:

Classless from Warnock.

Did he really say that?? Assumed it was Boro fans joking.

 

The more I've thought about this game, I can't believe we didn't win. 

Hackney, Silvera, and Lath all missed golden opportunities and their goal was a freak. 

I know much everyone on this forum loves xG - we're 4th for the season 😎

8 minutes ago, SouthernSmoggie said:

The more I've thought about this game, I can't believe we didn't win. 

Hackney, Silvera, and Lath all missed golden opportunities and their goal was a freak. 

I know much everyone on this forum loves xG - we're 4th for the season 😎

Genuinely I know there's a lot of worrying being done by Boro fans atm, but we'll be fine IMO - it was much better at the weekend and I believe the goals will start flowing again soon. We'll be okay!

If Sammi had scored the winner ... Everybody would have loved his full performance and sung his praises .. 

But he missed and now peoples' opinions are that he shouldn't be more than a sub ... 

Imagine translating that into a normal work place .. Would you want to go to work, if one mistake, where you wanted it too much and tried your best, got you sidelined or fired or in best case in bad standing from the rest of the people in the building?

Edited August 21, 20232 yr by SmogDane

20 hours ago, BearSmog said:

Kinda right though..

Agree, 12 months ago Wilder told him to find himself a new club, a section of our fans wanted to drive him to a club that shows interest in him, then bang, the only time in his career he bangs goals in left, right & centre, great memories for Chuba, the club & us fans, think we have done well to get £12m for him, there was initial talk of £8/9m from Sheff Utd, thinking that figure would maybe go up by another couple of million, I never expected anywhere near to the £15m the club quoted for him

TBH, think people are looking at Warnocks comments from his time here in this, I dont see a problem in what he said 

 

Edited August 22, 20232 yr by Erimus74

1 hour ago, SmogDane said:

If Sammi had scored the winner ... Everybody would have loved his full performance and sung his praises .. 

But he missed and now peoples' opinions are that he shouldn't be more than a sub ... 

Imagine translating that into a normal work place .. Would you want to go to work, if one mistake, where you wanted it too much and tried your best, got you sidelined or fired or in best case in bad standing from the rest of the people in the building?

This just isn't true. I was talking about how poor he was throughout Coventry and Millwall. The fact he's skied 3 sitters in the last 2 games is just the cherry on top. He's not good enough at this level right now, there's a lot of work to do before he's a starter 

Our system worked the best it has so far this season so I'm feeling optimistic that things are starting to improve despite the draw. There was much better link-up play between the thirds, with Howson's return allowing us to bring the ball out of defence into midfield more effectively and Rogers allowing us to open up Huddersfield in the final third. The pace of Lath and Silvera in attacking areas really helped us stretch Huddersfield and give a degree of unpredictability to our game. The main thing that let us down was our cutting edge with a mix of poor finishing and poor decision-making, largely from players who are still settling in. Fortunately them two things should improve as the team settles down and players work on converting the sort of chances that they'll find themselves with.

Silvera has been very rash when moving onto converting cutbacks in the box first-time as he's missed two very easy chances now - away to Coventry in the second half and very late on against Huddersfield on Saturday. He's got a very good first touch but really struggles striking the ball first-time. On Saturday, when he struck the ball he hadn't slowed down to prepare himself for it and instead ran onto the ball and swung a wild boot at it and, yet again, got his foot under the ball and blasted it way over the bar. He needs to learn to slow down, open his body up and get his foot over the ball a bit more instead of moving at full speed and swinging his boot so early. It's something so simple that it's easily coached fortunately. He just needs to concentrate and calm himself down. With a bit of composure, Silvera could even have taken a touch before having that shot, as he had that much time. I'm assuming the coaching team will flag it up in their analysis with him and put on some drills for him to implement it. There were other costly mistakes by others players like Lath not releasing the ball to Rogers when he broke forward wanting to be played one-on-one and his finishing was lacking, but it's only his first game so won't be fully in synch with how our #10 makes them runs. Berg performed well aside from a few rash needless challenges that gave away soft free-kicks. His passing seemed a lot better than previous shaky games, which is encouraging. 

Considering our new model of developing our own young players, we were always going to encounter these sorts of issues of raw players adapting. They just need time to work on their weaknesses and have time to fully integrate into our system. Rogers was by biggest positive as he looked at home in the #10 role and is starting to look ready to push on his development. Our team is starting to finally take shape and operate with a level of quality in possession so things are looking a lot more positive. 

Looking at our starting 11, we have lots of young promising players: Berg (19 year old), Engel (24 year old), Hackney (21 year old), Forss (24 year old), Rogers (21 year old), Silvera (22 year old) & Lath (24 year old). The average age of our starting 11 on Saturday was 25.2 year old. That's even with 35 year old Howson in CM. Our options from the bench were McGree (24 year old) and Jones (24 year old) so there's even young players beneath the start 11. It's not going to feel much comfort to some after a disappointing start to the season, but it bodes well for the future as a lot of our players have lots of development left within them. Once it clicks and we get our first win I can imagine us hitting a good run of form so I'm nowhere near concerned. When we come back after the international break in the middle of September I'm sure we'll be in a much better place with players performing better and also some new signings through the door.

Edited August 21, 20232 yr by p_mards

On 8/21/2023 at 10:56 AM, SouthernSmoggie said:

The more I've thought about this game, I can't believe we didn't win. 

Hackney, Silvera, and Lath all missed golden opportunities and their goal was a freak. 

I know much everyone on this forum loves xG - we're 4th for the season 😎

Sounds like the first 5 games under Wilder last season... and we know where that lead....

17 minutes ago, ladyspite said:

Sounds like the first 5 games under Wilder last season... and we know where that lead....

To the playoffs?

58 minutes ago, MBG42 said:

To the playoffs?

Yes, after a change of coach... 😛 Maybe Gibson has more patience now, its a bit simular though

On 8/21/2023 at 12:47 PM, Neverbefore said:

This just isn't true. I was talking about how poor he was throughout Coventry and Millwall. The fact he's skied 3 sitters in the last 2 games is just the cherry on top. He's not good enough at this level right now, there's a lot of work to do before he's a starter 

Millwall he came on as a sub in the 70th minute and looked bright, so I'm not sure how you could really be judging such a small cameo.

Coventry game he was wasteful in front of goal but was one of our few bright sparks going forward, and was one of the few players trying to get us up the pitch.

I thought against Huddersfield he was nowhere near as bad as people are making him out to be, he didn't have a great game and was very wasteful with chances, but he still had that ball carrying ability and he is without a doubt a threat. I don't think he should be starting every game but I don't think he's as far off as you're making him out to be. His main weakness seems to be his ball striking ability, just seems to absolutely put his foot through every shot expecting to score a screamer. I think once he's coached into placing his shots better we'll see more goals from him.

On 8/21/2023 at 12:47 PM, Neverbefore said:

This just isn't true. I was talking about how poor he was throughout Coventry and Millwall. The fact he's skied 3 sitters in the last 2 games is just the cherry on top. He's not good enough at this level right now, there's a lot of work to do before he's a starter 

I actually thought he had a good game on Saturday, outside of the miss. 🤷‍♂️