SouthernSmoggie 5,306 7k Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) Sunderland beat these 5-0 with 31% possession. Will we learn from how others have found success against them? I'd wager not. We're their dream opposition. Wide open, soft, stand-offish, and disinterested unless we have the ball. Happy to go toe to toe with worse players in every position. Will probably mean we score ourselves but I could see us losing 4-1, 5-2, something daft like that. We'll be more than three points adrift and Gibson will be in a nightmare scenario with fans baying for blood at full time. Apart from that, looking forward to this one 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"KM" 2,330 15.4k Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 20 minutes ago, Denzel Zanzibar said: Slaphead being in goal didn't help Brad Guzan? I think he's mint man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martonboro 590 593 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) Not looking forward to this one tbh. Could be a battering! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blanco 5,617 7.2k Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, martonboro said: Not looking forward to this one tbh. Could be a battering! And you won't even have your Dad there to give you a cuddle and tell you that it'll all be ok 🙂 🙂 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmogDane 4,138 8k Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 The players we have ... SCREAM for this formation! Dieng Fry, Lenihan, VDB Jones, O'brien, Hackney, Engel Lath Forss Coburn 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRe 359 760 Posted September 22, 2023 Author Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 minute ago, SmogDane said: The players we have ... SCREAM for this formation! Dieng Fry, Lenihan, VDB Jones, O'brien, Hackney, Engel Lath Forss Coburn Against these guys I think that 3 at the back might work very well if we nip a first goal. Pipe dream I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downsouth 8,153 39k Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Score first and we win clearly, they score first and goodness knows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce 3,109 2.5k Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 I suppose the law of averages say we must win sometime and for all this looks like a nailed-on defeat it feels like the kind of match that could turn things around. The team and selections don't offer any evidence that says we have a decent chance of beating them but victory is inevitable (at some point). Carrick has come straight out with it and said he doesn't think it's time to rip it up and start again. I can respect his stance and determination to stick to his principles. I think it's the wrong thing to do because there is no future to work towards in football if you aren't winning matches in the present. My suspicion is that Carrick will stick with roughly the same 11 that started against Wednesday and the 4-2-3-1 in an attempt to get a result by, well I don't know what his plan is. Managers tend to rely on their senior pros when they are under stress so I expect to see Crooks. It's unfair on Crooks to dread seeing him because he's an excellent Championship footballer who can win you games when you use him properly. If it were me and I was told I had to set up in a 4-2-3-1 no matter what then I would try to revert back to the lop-sided formation of last season but reverse it so the right side is more attacking with Jones as the pseudo-wingback. Assuming Forss is still injured then I would go with Dieng Jones - Fry - Lenihan - LOL Hackney - O'Brien McGree - Lath - Rogers Coburn Take the pressure to score off Lath by playing him deeper. Have McGree swap sides and play alongside Jones in a similar way he did with Giles. If McNair is available, have him playing as a pseudo LCB. I worry about being exposed down the right because Hackney's not great defensively so there is an argument for swapping him O'Brien around even through they will be on the wrong side. Personally I would set up with 3 at the back or in a 4-3-3 but I don't see Carrick doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoppy 869 1.5k Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 I cannot remember being this glum about a Boro side since the end of our premier league season under Agnew. I have no idea who I would play, I don't rate many of our players at all. Southampton won't have a better game than this to get back on track. 1-2 for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martonboro 590 593 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Blanco said: And you won't even have your Dad there to give you a cuddle and tell you that it'll all be ok 🙂 🙂 🙂 I normally have to do that for him to be fair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boromadman 45 99 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 52 minutes ago, SmogDane said: The players we have ... SCREAM for this formation! Dieng Fry, Lenihan, VDB Jones, O'brien, Hackney, Engel Lath Forss Coburn its funny because i was coming to post something similar today , only difference was i was going to put mcgree in at cam and have lath and forss upfront . having 3 cbs helps when ur rotten at the back lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"KM" 2,330 15.4k Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 56 minutes ago, SmogDane said: The players we have ... SCREAM for this formation! Dieng Fry, Lenihan, VDB Jones, O'brien, Hackney, Engel Lath Forss Coburn announce relegation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipBarrington 380 1.3k Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Reading through some of Carricks comments and it's slightly concerning that he was happy with the second half right hand side link ups of Jones, Crooks, Hackney and....Sammy. If Jones doesn't start this game at RW I will be shocked. Be good if we can get Bangura LB and Dijksteel or Smith back at RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsoncgp 10,162 19.9k Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Anyone can beat anyone else in this league. Except Boro, we can't beat anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernSmoggie 5,306 7k Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 I still can't get over how terrible Sheff Wed were. Teams we spanked by 4 or 5 last year were nowhere near that bad. Really concerning we were pretty much at their level for most of that game. Hard to see how much can have changed in three days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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