9 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said:

This is the record under Carrick.

The best we'd managed previously was 2.

 

We've definitely never been solid under Carrick. But it feels like an avenue to improvements for us because we're not going to be able to score at the rate we did last season. There's certainly signs of improvements from the last few games, we don't look as easy to play through as we were the past couple of seasons, Carrick-ball in its final form would have us camped in the opposition half controlling the game.

2 hours ago, Foogle said:

We've definitely never been solid under Carrick. But it feels like an avenue to improvements for us because we're not going to be able to score at the rate we did last season. There's certainly signs of improvements from the last few games, we don't look as easy to play through as we were the past couple of seasons, Carrick-ball in its final form would have us camped in the opposition half controlling the game.

Is it a myth that we can’t score the goals of last season? We’ve got 12 in the 5 game winning run, that seems pretty decent to me lmao.

46 minutes ago, LinoJo3 said:

Is it a myth that we can’t score the goals of last season? We’ve got 12 in the 5 game winning run, that seems pretty decent to me lmao.

We'd have double that under Big Sam's total futbol or with Warnock's pashun I reckon 

3 hours ago, Foogle said:

3 Clean sheets in a row, what is our record under Carrick? I remember when we were winless someone posted the "xG Table" and we were in the top 6 so perhaps this is just a regression to the mean, we're still pretty terrible at finishing though.

We're definitely defending with more intensity atm, even Barlaser looks like he's half a yard quicker and stronger in the challenge which is going nicely with his lovely ability in possession 

Feel like there was a mentality switch before that Southampton game, the 'experienced' players showing how much they want it 

Noticing Coburn getting some pelters and "needs another loan" on social media, admittedly poor finishing for the 2 big chances but played fine overall imo. Gives us an outball and can somewhat replicate Chuba's hold up play, i'll still bang the Latte Lath up front and Coburn just off him drum though 

Is it a Boro thing or just the new age football fan to be so extreme in their judgement after each game? We've already seen it on here this season in multiple ways (looking at you Carrick Out-ers 🤡) but atm it's literally you're only as good as your last shot on goal. Probably always a thing but exploded in recent years presumably down to social media? 

Hopefully Rogers hits the target once more next game so he doesn't become a League 1 player not fit to wear the shirt again, be class if Latte Lath continues as R9 come outside! Instead of 1 economy ticket back to Italy please as well 

Edited October 23, 20232 yr by LBP

23 minutes ago, LBP said:

Noticing Coburn getting some pelters and "needs another loan" on social media, admittedly poor finishing for the 2 big chances but played fine overall imo. Gives us an outball and can somewhat replicate Chuba's hold up play, i'll still bang the Latte Lath up front and Coburn just off him drum though 

Is it a Boro thing or just the new age football fan to be so extreme in their judgement after each game? We've already seen it on here this season in multiple ways (looking at you Carrick Out-ers 🤡) but atm it's literally you're only as good as your last shot on goal. Probably always a thing but exploded in recent years presumably down to social media? 

Hopefully Rogers hits the target once more next game so he doesn't become a League 1 player not fit to wear the shirt again, be class if Latte Lath continues as R9 come outside! Instead of 1 economy ticket back to Italy please as well 

I’m wondering if we might finally see lath and Coburn together when McGree comes back in, bit harsh to drop crooks tho so a tough call.

We need the Norwich thread open, when do we want it? Now!

6 hours ago, LBP said:

Noticing Coburn getting some pelters and "needs another loan" on social media, admittedly poor finishing for the 2 big chances but played fine overall imo. Gives us an outball and can somewhat replicate Chuba's hold up play, i'll still bang the Latte Lath up front and Coburn just off him drum though 

Is it a Boro thing or just the new age football fan to be so extreme in their judgement after each game? We've already seen it on here this season in multiple ways (looking at you Carrick Out-ers 🤡) but atm it's literally you're only as good as your last shot on goal. Probably always a thing but exploded in recent years presumably down to social media? 

Hopefully Rogers hits the target once more next game so he doesn't become a League 1 player not fit to wear the shirt again, be class if Latte Lath continues as R9 come outside! Instead of 1 economy ticket back to Italy please as well 

Yep you're only as good as your last couple of games. I mean Haaland was getting pelters/fraud shouts for not scoring in 4 games or whatever.

23 hours ago, SouthernSmoggie said:

It's a daft way of looking at things. You could make a similar list of excuses for all the games we didn't win - the truth is most games in this league are tight and come down to big moments on the day.

I actually quite like that lad but he gets a bit up his own backside with his stats and spreadsheets. Thinks he's got football totally figured out. Also has a bee in his bonnet because Watford are dog dirt this year.

yeah most games are won or lost because of a reason, its like saying a goal was because of a defensive error, its no sh!t sherlock territory lol

for most our first games we lost you can blame it on players trying to play a new system they weren't used to, injuries, massive churn of players, players being brought into the squad before they were ready to play, among other things

but I would not think you can really take them victories away from any of our opponents, they were won fair and square

there's is plenty of instances where these situations all align under previous managers where plenty of these results would of been losses or draws, you still need to win the game after all, and i've seen plenty of games in the past where a game was there for the taking and was clear to see we wouldn't score even with 6 hours added time

8 hours ago, LBP said:

Noticing Coburn getting some pelters and "needs another loan" on social media, admittedly poor finishing for the 2 big chances but played fine overall imo. Gives us an outball and can somewhat replicate Chuba's hold up play, i'll still bang the Latte Lath up front and Coburn just off him drum though 

Is it a Boro thing or just the new age football fan to be so extreme in their judgement after each game? We've already seen it on here this season in multiple ways (looking at you Carrick Out-ers 🤡) but atm it's literally you're only as good as your last shot on goal. Probably always a thing but exploded in recent years presumably down to social media? 

Hopefully Rogers hits the target once more next game so he doesn't become a League 1 player not fit to wear the shirt again, be class if Latte Lath continues as R9 come outside! Instead of 1 economy ticket back to Italy please as well 

Right now, I'm of the belief it's the social media thing of presenting either one extreme view or the other. Either they're the best or the worst option for the team, there's no in-between. I'm sure most people are guilty of doing it when they're attached to those platforms on a daily basis, myself included. Twitter was good for certain things but in retrospect, I think it was always mostly a cesspool of extreme views dictating conversations and I'm glad to be off it, now.

It's not limited to football, of course, it's even worse for politics.

2 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said:

Right now, I'm of the belief it's the social media thing of presenting either one extreme view or the other. Either they're the best or the worst option for the team, there's no in-between. I'm sure most people are guilty of doing it when they're attached to those platforms on a daily basis, myself included. Twitter was good for certain things but in retrospect, I think it was always mostly a cesspool of extreme views dictating conversations and I'm glad to be off it, now.

It's not limited to football, of course, it's even worse for politics.

just bipolar parts of the fan base, social media gives them an outlet instead of it just being something they shout at the match or to their friends who listen to them lol

6 games always changes the mind of any of these fans to move from one extreme to the other

Anybody got any news on lenihan? Was out the squad Saturday but haven’t heard why?

https://www.leedsunited.news/news/charlie-cresswell-blown-away-by-leeds-star-after-win-over-wayne-rooneys-birmingham-city-side/

Boro’s return to form has coincided with Greenwood starting matches. Five wins in a row and the Leeds talent has started the last three – scoring in a huge 4-0 win over Sunderland. He posted on Instagram. (all thanks to leeds help this turn around lol)

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/two-particular-middlesbrough-players-deserve-27959007 https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/two-particular-middlesbrough-players-deserve-27959007 Dan Barlaser finally showing his best in a Boro shirt & Lukas Engel's most encouraging showing to date

https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/23871562.morgan-rogers-desperate-improve-middlesbrough-winner/ Morgan Rogers desperate to improve after Middlesbrough winner, Middlesbrough's Morgan Rogers explains key to his development after leaving Man City 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/carrick-wayne-rooney-birmingham-middlesbrough-31251734  Michael Carrick showed Wayne Rooney his blueprint for Birmingham City on false start, Wayne Rooney had to swallow the taste of defeat in his first game as Birmingham City manager, with ex-Manchester United teammate Michael Carrick taking the spoils

https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/morgan-rogers-thirst-football-middlesbrough-27960442 Morgan Rogers detailed why he felt he was able to make a positive impact from Middlesbrough's bench

 

 

So after spending the international break watching the Sunderland highlights every 10 minutes, I now get to dine out on beating Wayne Rooney with a last minute winner. Outstanding ❤️

12 hours ago, LinoJo3 said:

Is it a myth that we can’t score the goals of last season? We’ve got 12 in the 5 game winning run, that seems pretty decent to me lmao.

Our goals-to-xG was awful before the recent run. This recent run of games has helped it a lot - 4 goals from 2.9 xG against Sunderland, 3 goals from 0.7 xG against Watford (source), but we are still underscoring our xG overall, and did again this weekend (source).

I think our finishing when we are at least 1 up compared to otherwise is miles better, I think its a confidence thing, as we seem to be far more daring when we are winning