LinoJo3 4,958 12.4k Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 5 minutes ago, Changing Times said: You're absolutely right that we can't be expected to spend every penny perfectly but it seems reasonable to expect us to spend most of it well, and we haven't really if you look at it. Comparing us to Warnock isn't really comparing like with like. Obviously Covid was an issue when he was here, and we weren't spending much either way as we didn't under Woodgate. Ironically we did buy the aforementioned Akpom and the useful Crooks who I suppose would be regarded as pretty big hits. The biggest money we spent back then was on Payero, a player that Warnock clearly didn't want, and ended up as a complete dud for us. If you are saying that a systematic approach to signing players is better than how things might have been done previously then yeah I do agree with you there. However, whatever way you do it, it's only successful if you end up with a better team isn't it? I mean that's the ultimate test of it all. We still have an unbalanced squad so it's not like we've been successful at sorting that out, and whilst we have our moments this season and last, we don't look as good as we were two years ago. It's also worth pointing out that the best player from the current squad isn't ours so that doesn't suggest progress being made on that score. Scott has been here a few years now, we've made a few cracking signings, but we've also made plenty that aren't, and the squad still has the same issues it did last season and beyond. To me it's almost like two different questions or points to be made. If the question is, do I think that if we sell X,Y or Z that we'll make some canny signings then yes I do, and Scott gets a tick on that from me. But if the question is, do I think that we'll end up better then I'm less sure about that tbh. I don't think the evidence so far is as conclusive as others seem to feel it is. Do you see what I mean? I do see what you mean. I think our transfer strategy has a pretty big flaw in that we use the same criteria no matter the situation. By that I mean we make risky signings for areas of the team where we are desperate for quality and I feel that’s why the team isn’t really balanced right now. If Lath does leave in January I fully expect him to be replaced by an unproven player, just like I feel Jones replacement will end up being. Obviously that has its pros and cons but maybe sometimes a more obvious singing is the better option than trying to constantly unearth gems. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmo Kink Army 2,023 3.8k Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 5 minutes ago, Donnyboro said: I want us to sign someone like parrot/cannon who’s ready to hit the ground running but get the feeling it’ll be 4/6m striker from a lesser league with the development coming here. I feel like it will be European striker, but I feel like we won’t let Lath go till he’s close to joining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macapes 2,589 2.8k Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 8 minutes ago, Robin Johnson said: Bow to your greater knowledge. Presumably you recall him being awarded the player of the month for the league in December? Of course you did............... Think you missed the parrot/Polly wants a cracker jest there. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Johnson 1,326 1.9k Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just now, macapes said: Think you missed the parrot/Polly wants a cracker jest there. I did! Was making a serious point. How stupid of me not to realise I wouldn't get engagement of a serious nature back !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estonpidge 1,673 6.2k Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, CrazyL said: It was the opposite way around. We accepted slightly less of a total fee to get more of it up front (possibly all of it but don’t quote me) the release clause had to be paid in one payment to be activated, Wolves thought about paying more to spread the cost, but the alleged £25m was too rich so they paid £18 as per clause. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty189 1,182 2.7k Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 5 minutes ago, Tarmo Kink Army said: I feel like it will be European striker, but I feel like we won’t let Lath go till he’s close to joining I think that's the only way it can happen, be carnage if we let him go and don't replace sharpish, place is already on a downer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipBarrington 351 1.2k Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 hours ago, AnglianRed said: But we only get that £200m WHEN we get promoted. Which isn't going to be this season...and may not be next, unless we can significantly strengthen the squad (I point once again to the gap between Boro and the top 4). Selling our less important players for £3-5m and bringing in new players of similar value is basically just treading water. Also bearing in mind our limited squad places and that we need to sell in order to buy, it might just be that we have to sell one of our more valuable assets, in order to bring in a couple of substantially better players. Just my take, of course...I'd much rather ELL stayed too. 🤷♂️ I pretty much agree that we're treading water - although we're an unhappy bunch for a team sat in the play offs. Think I am right in recalling that we have our full denomination of squad places allocated - selling Jones and ELL only frees up 2 so if we are targeting replacements for them + upgrades at LB, CM, GK at least then we need 3 more out either by sales,loans or deregistering. Selling ELL weakens us so if we can't get better than him up top then we at least need to bring in better in other positions so make it an effective manouvere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipBarrington 351 1.2k Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 4 minutes ago, Robin Johnson said: I did! Was making a serious point. How stupid of me not to realise I wouldn't get engagement of a serious nature back !!! I know. Sometimes this board makes me sick as a Parrott 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changing Times 14,687 21.7k Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 5 minutes ago, Robin Johnson said: I did! Was making a serious point. How stupid of me not to realise I wouldn't get engagement of a serious nature back !!! That's because you're a poo poo head. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Johnson 1,326 1.9k Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 5 minutes ago, Changing Times said: That's because you're a poo poo head. And who better qualified than you to be judging?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changing Times 14,687 21.7k Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, Robin Johnson said: And who better qualified than you to be judging?! I think I've hit a nerve there like 💩 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Johnson 1,326 1.9k Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, Changing Times said: I think I've hit a nerve there like 💩 Nah try harder! Shock admission I respect your posts ( largely!) As a qualified wordsmith they hold gravitas. Oh what the hell have I said????!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimBoy Fat 30 26 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 24 minutes ago, Tarmo Kink Army said: I feel like it will be European striker, but I feel like we won’t let Lath go till he’s close to joining Is that not a bit sexist assuming it's going to be a 'he'?🤪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Barnes 371 628 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 10 minutes ago, Robin Johnson said: And who better qualified than you to be judging?! Err...Me 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Johnson 1,326 1.9k Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Just now, Nobby Barnes said: Err...Me 👍 Nobs, sorry to tell you - you're not even in the same school - let alone class !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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