Borodane 7,357 27k Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 On 11/23/2023 at 9:48 AM, Rob said: https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/middlesbrough-should-revive-qpr-transfer-link-to-pounce-on-uncertain-situation-view/ Willock was a player that many fans expected to see leave QPR in the summer, as he was entering the final 12 months of his contract at the club. This would make a lot of sense. But you could say that about a host of Championship clubs. Whatever we pay for him in january we should be able to recoup if it doesn't work out anyway. QPR are dire and in relegation form so might need some money and wages off the wagebill. If we can get him on a discount I'm all for it despite having a few players that can play in his position, but I think we can see how frail our left side is when McGree is out. It's not Greenwoods best position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humpty 4,475 10k Posted November 24, 2023 Author Share Posted November 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, Borodane said: That or a half season loan for Steffen if he is fit and City is willing to give is a good discount and no one else comes in. Interesting thought...maybe a months loan? Can't see him sitting on our bench when Dieng comes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borodane 7,357 27k Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Just now, Humpty said: Interesting thought...maybe a months loan? Can't see him sitting on our bench when Dieng comes back. It's better than sitting in the stands at City. Here he will actually have a chance of playing and putting himself in the window. If we can get a cheap deal for the second half of the season it could suit all parties and will also apply some pressure on Dieng. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob 5,961 9.2k Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Humpty said: The most logical solution has to be to recall one of the goalkeepers we have out on loan. Liam Roberts, Zach Flemming and Sol Brynn all have recall clauses in their loan agreement. I haven't watched enough of Flemming or Brynn to know which of the three is the best option. I think we will just use who we have available to us at present rather than recalling anyone. If we didn't have confidence in what we are going to be left with I think we would get in a cheap free agent before recalling anyone but I don't think we will even do that. While recalling one of the loan keepers might help the first us in the short term, I think they have already worked out what they would do in this situation in the summer and its in the squad already when they agreed to let others go out on loan. I don't think they would cut someone's loan short just for cover for a month or so for us. That's just the impression I've had since he has had situations like this earlier in the season that were unplanned and he didn't bite to get an emergency RB in because smith and dykesteel were several weeks away from fitness. This situation has been foreseeable since the summer when we signed our keepers, I think either Glovers not going to go, or more likely we will just use Jones (with an under on the bench) until glover and/or deing return after their countries are eliminated. Anything other than deing is far from ideal for me (and i'd probs rather roll with roberts or one of the lads doing well on loan) but is the give and take you will have to make for him unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob 5,961 9.2k Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 38 minutes ago, Borodane said: This would make a lot of sense. But you could say that about a host of Championship clubs. Whatever we pay for him in january we should be able to recoup if it doesn't work out anyway. QPR are dire and in relegation form so might need some money and wages off the wagebill. If we can get him on a discount I'm all for it despite having a few players that can play in his position, but I think we can see how frail our left side is when McGree is out. It's not Greenwoods best position. I think he may well just turn everyone down looking for a better pay day in the summer, unless a fast track to the prem come along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humpty 4,475 10k Posted November 24, 2023 Author Share Posted November 24, 2023 We won't go in to that spell with just Jamie Jones, so it's either recall a loan keeper or bring someone in on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob 5,961 9.2k Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Humpty said: We won't go in to that spell with just Jamie Jones, so it's either recall a loan keeper or bring someone in on loan. we can bring people from the unders up to sit on the bench tho. its a month and a bit potentially, which he could well be out for the whole time given his nation is favourites, glover in a similar situation with the asian cup as austria are 3rd favourites But I'm sure the club have already planned and decided on this as it was all well known when they signed and loaned everyone, the young lads I just cant see them pulling them unless the loans not going well, and even then I think it would be more to loan them to someone else as I don't think they would see the value in taking them off loan to be competition to jones for 3-6 weeks. I'd see them doing it more if they had made over short term bites on loans/signings when the scenarios came up for similar durations like with RB and they doubled down that it wouldn't be beneficial in the long term to add to that position when people were returning on similar timeframes, this being a known situation I just think although we see faults with the personnel we are left with that we won't bring someone better in or our kids back and probs will make do with jones for that month, although I do get a feeling you won't be signing this off on the phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLF10 5,307 7k Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/four-potential-signings-middlesbrough-lenihan-28166461 Ben Johnson for RB would be a brilliant loan which would allow VDB to be one of the 4 CBs (provided Paddy stays). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeaCider24 16,137 21.1k Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) I'd sooner not disrupt Brynn/Hemming's development for the sake of a maximum of 7 league games, and that's only if both Australia and Senegal reach their respective finals, which I doubt they will, and we're knocked out in our first FA Cup match. It could be as few as 3 league matches, and then they'd miss the rest of the season at their loan clubs. Bring back Liam Roberts if we have to, as he's not one for the future anyway. I think a potential League Cup semi-final could be a tempting prospect though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borodane 7,357 27k Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 hour ago, TLF10 said: https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/four-potential-signings-middlesbrough-lenihan-28166461 Ben Johnson for RB would be a brilliant loan which would allow VDB to be one of the 4 CBs (provided Paddy stays). I very much doubt Zanka is willing to leave Brentford. He seems very happy there and gets the odd Premier League game. Brentford also seem very happy with his role. If he manages some games in the second half of the season he'll be in with a shout regarding the Euros if Denmark have a few injuries. That door will probably be closed if he drops into the Championship. Denmarks coach don't really call up players from the second tiers although Vestergaard was called up for the last two games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob 5,961 9.2k Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 18 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said: I'd sooner not disrupt Brynn/Hemming's development for the sake of a maximum of 7 league games, and that's only if both Australia and Senegal reach their respective finals, which I doubt they will, and we're knocked out in our first FA Cup match. It could be as few as 3 league matches, and then they'd miss the rest of the season at their loan clubs. Bring back Liam Roberts if we have to, as he's not one for the future anyway. I think a potential League Cup semi-final could be a tempting prospect though. I think Roberts is one we wouldn't bring back because his loan is basically a free transfer we have given him, plus i might be wrong but sure last loan update he was injured and thats why he was in the photos someone said. Senegal are favourites for their cup and Australia are 3rd favourites, so there is decent chance both are away for a good chunk of the comp but then anything can happen, you would think one of them be back early on tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarBoro 1,062 1.4k Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Rob said: I think they have already worked out what they would do in this situation in the summer and its in the squad already when they agreed to let others go out on loan. I don't think they would cut someone's loan short just for cover for a month or so for us. That's just the impression I've had since he has had situations like this earlier in the season that were unplanned and he didn't bite to get an emergency RB in because smith and dykesteel were several weeks away from fitness. This situation has been foreseeable since the summer when we signed our keepers, I think either Glovers not going to go, or more likely we will just use Jones (with an under on the bench) until glover and/or deing return after their countries are eliminated. As you say they will have planned. That planning could have been telling one of the clubs where we have a loaner that we will recall in January and let them go back to their loan club.on 31st January. That way we are only without both Dieng and Glover for a maximum of two league games - and that assumes we don’t have a cup game and both get to the finals of their competitions. Much more manageable for the club that has loaned him - they have to have a reserve keeper themselves that can cover for 2 or 3 games - and doesn’t affect the progress of the keeper we bring back. It also allows us a good look at them as a bonus. its too risky for me to rely on a young keeper who has never played league football to step in if we have an injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob 5,961 9.2k Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, ScarBoro said: As you say they will have planned. That planning could have been telling one of the clubs where we have a loaner that we will recall in January and let them go back to their loan club.on 31st January. That way we are only without both Dieng and Glover for a maximum of two league games - and that assumes we don’t have a cup game and both get to the finals of their competitions. Much more manageable for the club that has loaned him - they have to have a reserve keeper themselves that can cover for 2 or 3 games - and doesn’t affect the progress of the keeper we bring back. It also allows us a good look at them as a bonus. its too risky for me to rely on a young keeper who has never played league football to step in if we have an injury. maybe they have but think its unnecessary to recall them until there is at least an injury even if its just a temporary one there is no harm leaving a youth on the bench as its super rare to use a keeper sub, then if they had to recall someone on a temp basis or bring a free agent in for the month you could Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeaCider24 16,137 21.1k Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Rob said: I think Roberts is one we wouldn't bring back because his loan is basically a free transfer we have given him, plus i might be wrong but sure last loan update he was injured and thats why he was in the photos someone said. Senegal are favourites for their cup and Australia are 3rd favourites, so there is decent chance both are away for a good chunk of the comp but then anything can happen, you would think one of them be back early on tho Yeah, he's recovering from finger surgery, so he's not playing for Barnsley anyway. I think it would be less disruptive to recall him as an option, but give Jamie Jones the starts and see how he does. If he's ***, start Roberts for a few matches, if he's decent then send Roberts back to Barnsley during the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverbefore 13,623 28.1k Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 We've only two games between the end of the Jan transfer window and the end of the afcon (realistically 3 cause one is 3 days after the final. I wonder if we might just recall someone with the plan to send them back on the last day of the transfer window unless we feel we can't cope for those two games. Bit *** for the team we've loaned them to but better for them than losing them entirely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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