The Official Summer Transfer Window 2025/26 Season

[Uncle-Festa 284 154]

I completely understand wanting Carrick out and there is good merit for doing so. 

What i find strange is people are really trying to rewrite history on the Nacho signing. I am pretty sure it was confirmed both on our aide and Southamptons side that we were offered Armstrong on expensive loan terms. We did not bite and nobody else did. Very late on Saints realised this and then very late on. offered him on more favourable terms to teams but my that point we had agreed a deal for Nacho so could not go back for Armstrong. Sevilla were also touting Nacho all around Europe to get him of their books given they paid 50% of his wages.

However it seems people on the net are now wanting to create a narrative that Carrick actively sought out Nacho via Jonny Evans and did so at expense of Armstrong. And others who want Carrick out are happy to swallow this.

There is enough solid arguments for wanting carrick out but the whole Nacho, Armstrong thing appears a fabrication created in last few weeks to beat Carrick with another stick. 

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1 minute ago, Uncle-Festa said:

I completely understand wanting Carrick out and there is good merit for doing so. 

What i find strange is people are really trying to rewrite history on the Nacho signing. I am pretty sure it was confirmed both on our aide and Southamptons side that we were offered Armstrong on expensive loan terms. We did not bite and nobody else did. Very late on Saints realised this and then very late on. offered him on more favourable terms to teams but my that point we had agreed a deal for Nacho so could not go back for Armstrong. Sevilla were also touting Nacho all around Europe to get him of their books given they paid 50% of his wages.

However it seems people on the net are now wanting to create a narrative that Carrick actively sought out Nacho via Jonny Evans and did so at expense of Armstrong. And others who want Carrick out are happy to swallow this.

There is enough solid arguments for wanting carrick out but the whole Nacho, Armstrong thing appears a fabrication created in last few weeks to beat Carrick with another stick. 

One of the locals, forget which one, confirmed we had an agreement in place with Armstrong.

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9 minutes ago, QueudrueThinkYouAre said:

Despite the Iheanacho blame, for me the issue is more that Doak covered over the cracks - we hadn't planned for him, he was a last minute offer that we managed to snap up in the last few days of the window after our other business was done, and could quite easily have gone to another club.
Looking at the squad at the beginning of the season without Doak was the squad that we planned for over several months last summer, and its the critical thinking that went into that from the whole recruitment team, and how that would have performed that needs assessing, and TBH I dread to think where we would have been without him, but probably would have performed all season like we did from Feb onwards.
I don't know whether to blame Carrick, Scott or someone else for that, but I don't want that same thinking applied this summer or we'll suffer next year. Hopefully this club review resolves that.

Good first post welcome to the forum!

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2 hours ago, Tarmo Kink Army said:

Interesting from Craig about rumours around the club

 

This will annoy a lot of people not being able to blame Carrick for that 

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12 minutes ago, LinoJo3 said:

Nah I also think we got him to play #10. Azaz isn’t a proper 10, I also think we got Conway to play there, it was mentioned when we signed him and his first few starts for us were at #10. Nachos heat map was that of a #10 rather than an out and out striker so I agree that’s where we brought him in to play.

I’d disagree azaz is a proper 10 and it’s his best position as seen from his output, i think we brought in Iheanacho to rotate with Conway as you can’t only have 1 striker especially for 6 months with our injury record, we realised Iheanacho can’t run and dropped him into the position azaz plays as he doesn’t press 

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9 minutes ago, Uncle-Festa said:

I completely understand wanting Carrick out and there is good merit for doing so. 

What i find strange is people are really trying to rewrite history on the Nacho signing. I am pretty sure it was confirmed both on our aide and Southamptons side that we were offered Armstrong on expensive loan terms. We did not bite and nobody else did. Very late on Saints realised this and then very late on. offered him on more favourable terms to teams but my that point we had agreed a deal for Nacho so could not go back for Armstrong. Sevilla were also touting Nacho all around Europe to get him of their books given they paid 50% of his wages.

However it seems people on the net are now wanting to create a narrative that Carrick actively sought out Nacho via Jonny Evans and did so at expense of Armstrong. And others who want Carrick out are happy to swallow this.

There is enough solid arguments for wanting carrick out but the whole Nacho, Armstrong thing appears a fabrication created in last few weeks to beat Carrick with another stick. 

Good post, it's exactly what's happening. I've said a few times that criticism of Carrick is fair but not proportional. Too many other people not getting the job done (including Scott, Gibson, medical/physio departments and the players) to solely focus on one piece of the puzzle. 

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No matter who it was, the fact that Iheanacho was meant to be going Derby should of been telling enough 

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8 minutes ago, Tarmo Kink Army said:

No matter who it was, the fact that Iheanacho was meant to be going Derby should of been telling enough 

Exactly mate! So why was he one of two poor short term expensive choices for Carrick to consider when choosing to replace the best striker in the league? 

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18 minutes ago, Tarmo Kink Army said:

I’d disagree azaz is a proper 10 and it’s his best position as seen from his output, i think we brought in Iheanacho to rotate with Conway as you can’t only have 1 striker especially for 6 months with our injury record, we realised Iheanacho can’t run and dropped him into the position azaz plays as he doesn’t press 

I like Azaz but in the 10 he hasn't shown he can do it against any of the top sides yet. That isn't all down to him as Boro have been poor against them this season but he is apart of that. Only 1 of his 23 goal contributions came against a team that finished in the top 8.

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2 minutes ago, LBP said:

Exactly mate! So why was he one of two poor short term expensive choices for Carrick to consider when choosing to replace the best striker in the league? 

Your bias against Scott is amazing, it’s widely reported carrick favoured iheanacho you’re trying to create conspiracies that it isn’t, like if you can moan at Scott at least have the bottle to give him some flowers for his success but you can’t do that can you, might hurt your pride 

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Just now, Tarmo Kink Army said:

Your bias against Scott is amazing, it’s widely reported carrick favoured iheanacho you’re trying to create conspiracies that it isn’t, like if you can moan at Scott at least have the bottle to give him some flowers for his success but you can’t do that can you, might hurt your pride 

What are you going on about mate?

Are you saying you think Carrick wanted Iheanacho for the whole of January as his 1st choice Latte Lath replacement? 

 

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You have both been having the same argument a while now lads

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1 minute ago, LBP said:

What are you going on about mate?

Are you saying you think Carrick wanted Iheanacho for the whole of January as his 1st choice Latte Lath replacement? 

 

I’m saying why can’t you give Scott any praise, why is that so hard for you and why do you want him out first?

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Just now, AllBoro10 said:

You have both been having the same argument a while now lads

Him saying Scott should be sacked is mental, I’m still perplexed now 

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I do find it difficult that people have Scott ahead of Carrick in the firing line