Preston v Boro 2-1 (Azaz)

[Donnyboro 922 1.1k]

13 minutes ago, Borodane said:

Yeah at that point. But then january comes along and both strikers are injured, the manager doesn't see one of the options as a striker (Forss) and the other option isn't a striker (Greenwood). And with all those hard facts the club still doesn't do anything about it. It's pretty poor from Scott and a massive gamble that we shouldn't take. It screams unambitious and writing off the season to me. 

There’s a much bigger picture than the last 6 months in a season but no one has any patience. The original comment was about 2 windows not 1. Who would you have signed as a striker for us in jan ? 

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12 hours ago, LinoJo3 said:

I’m not sure what everyone has been expecting this season lol, we were an upper/mid table team even before the injuries. Most of the players just aren’t as good as made out.

But I also don't think they are as bad as they often seem to be (defence being an exception).

I just don't think some are being used in their best positions, with tactics that play to their strengths.

For one thing, the way we usually set up requires players with pace...something our squad is notably lacking in.

I would imagine a more experienced manager would see this and adapt. In our case I'd hope the senior coaches would be giving Carrick advice about how to adapt to this glaring deficiency.

I'm fairly confident the right manager could get our squad playing better and more consistently than it is. We're just paying the price for having an inexperienced manager and coaches of questionable ability (none more so than Woody). Takes more than just being a good bloke who gets on with the lads.

Think if I was Carrick I'd be on the phone to Fergie and some of the coaches who were at Man Utd back in his playing days, trying to get some advice. I like the guy and he seems like a decent down-to-Earth bloke, but he does seem in desperate need of some sound guidance.

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1 hour ago, TheJew said:

Gonna get beat comfortably tonight.

Our squad planning over the last 2 windows has been shocking. For all Scott professes, we've played the bulk of this season without a centre forward.

We have got weaker as each window has occurred. 

This is the new World. It's inevitable.

 

41 minutes ago, TheJew said:

Agree. Scott has had a mare.

 

Scott - the same man who bought one squad player in the first one of those windows for £1.5m and then sold that same player in the second window for £16m?

Greenwood and Forss are both CFs, they are just playing in wider forward areas. 

Those straws keep getting harder and harder to grasp don't they? Especially when your mid-season claims of "relegation" and "jobs for the boys" during a 6 game winning streak didn't take off. 

 

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Dieng in goal please.

Forss up top (but more likely to be RW with Greenwood CF.)

Hackney in his rightful place in midfield.

START RILEY MCGREE.

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41 minutes ago, Donnyboro said:

There’s a much bigger picture than the last 6 months in a season but no one has any patience. The original comment was about 2 windows not 1. Who would you have signed as a striker for us in jan ? 

Well the window isn't bigger than we don't have a fit striker. It's a fairly stinking situation. I'm not a professional director of football so I don't know who is available, but there is a whole world of football out there so someone with connections and a little more insight should have been able to get one. I'd have taken Kieffer Moore as a six month stop gap. It's not like we don't have a chance of the playoffs. Norwich brought in a striker on loan from Serie A who's previously scored lots of goals in Holland. The options are certainly out there. We just sat on our hands.

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2 hours ago, Redcar Rioja said:

I'm just content now to be amused by the selection, how the team is set up and the tactics employed by Carrick and his Coaches (don't want to miss anyone out).

The result now is almost immaterial. What I do want to see is if Carrick is "learning" or disappearing up his own orifice which is the norm sadly for many "found out" Manager's.

The next few months are make or break time for him for me. Hope he sorts his head out for everyone's sake.

There are many valid criticisms of Carrick and his decisions but I have to say I think your dislike of him is way over the top. 

He's just over a year into his managerial career, and he's probably had about as much good as he has had bad at this point. But the good has been VERY good. If you had a young player in his first 2 years of his his career would you be this critical if they weren't brilliant every match?

I realise this isn't a direct correlation because a player you can take in and out and the manager is always accountable, but the logic remains the same. He was always going to take a while to get consistent results, and he's still trying to feel his way through things. Counter to your criticisms, Carrick has on occasion deviated from his tactics. He's made changes in personel and sometimes shape. Sometimes it's worked sometimes it hasn't. Again, that comes with the territory of being a new manager.

Mcclaren took a while to get going. Karanka did too, and both got more financial support from the chairman. If we'd got rid of either while they were inconsistent and learning we may still be trophyless, not have had a European final and our stay in the championship would be 15 years. 

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25 minutes ago, boksicdink said:

Greenwood and Forss are both CFs, they are just playing in wider forward areas. 

 

Greenwood isn't a striker and I think that's fairly obvious to see. And Carrick doesn't see Forss as a striker so we really don't have any options up front. It's really bad work from Scott.

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I was a skeptic about Scott last season I admit, but as we're not on a push this season I'd say the benefits from our dealings will really come to help us make a proper push next year. We have to remember that it looks like Luton (or Everton?), Burnley and Sheff Utd are likely coming back down. We'll have a much, much easier season to make a substantial push, everything will be up for grabs and I can't wait.

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2 minutes ago, MRe said:

I was a skeptic about Scott last season I admit, but as we're not on a push this season I'd say the benefits from our dealings will really come to help us make a proper push next year. We have to remember that it looks like Luton (or Everton?), Burnley and Sheff Utd are likely coming back down. We'll have a much, much easier season to make a substantial push, everything will be up for grabs and I can't wait.

Agree with all this. Just makes the rest of this season a slog. 

[Borodane 6,836 26.5k]

1 minute ago, MRe said:

I was a skeptic about Scott last season I admit, but as we're not on a push this season I'd say the benefits from our dealings will really come to help us make a proper push next year. We have to remember that it looks like Luton (or Everton?), Burnley and Sheff Utd are likely coming back down. We'll have a much, much easier season to make a substantial push, everything will be up for grabs and I can't wait.

Yeah let's just wait and see on that account. If people really think that we are saving up all this cash and room in the FFP budget to spend really big in the summer I think they are going to be disappointed. We will spend money, obviously, as we need some serious strengthening but it'll be more like last summer. And we don't need to be "on a push" this season. A few weeks ago we were just a few points outside the playoffs and didn't have a fit striker. And we decided to do nothing about that. It didn't need a push to get another option in to be competitive. 

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7 minutes ago, Borodane said:

Well the window isn't bigger than we don't have a fit striker. It's a fairly stinking situation. I'm not a professional director of football so I don't know who is available, but there is a whole world of football out there so someone with connections and a little more insight should have been able to get one. I'd have taken Kieffer Moore as a six month stop gap. It's not like we don't have a chance of the playoffs. Norwich brought in a striker on loan from Serie A who's previously scored lots of goals in Holland. The options are certainly out there. We just sat on our hands.

I do wish we got a older forward in for next to nothing, happy for them not to spunk 5m on 5 goals in desperation, but feel they must of been someone that could of been needing a start somewhere that we could of borrowed or signed for a year or so. I think it would of helped the lads learn from them and at the same time give us backup when they are injured that you know has at least done it before, even if they are not the player they used to be. bit like our ayling signing 

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3 minutes ago, Borodane said:

Yeah let's just wait and see on that account. If people really think that we are saving up all this cash and room in the FFP budget to spend really big in the summer I think they are going to be disappointed. We will spend money, obviously, as we need some serious strengthening but it'll be more like last summer. And we don't need to be "on a push" this season. A few weeks ago we were just a few points outside the playoffs and didn't have a fit striker. And we decided to do nothing about that. It didn't need a push to get another option in to be competitive. 

yeah I think we will try and get max value and potential upside from most of our deals, would be nice to have one tho that makes you think, yeah that looks good, instead of having to find out who they are from wikipedia for a change lol 

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4 minutes ago, Neverbefore said:

Agree with all this. Just makes the rest of this season a slog. 

It's got to be hard for everyone involved too. Whilst the season continues, if that does impact on morale and performances, it could severely impact confidence in the coaches and players.

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Hoppe's like a new signing.

Let's goooooo.

[Rob 5,371 8.3k]

hopefully if it is gonna be a *** show the times used to bring others up to speed ready for next season

if we cant stop leaking goals I'd love us to just do what we did vs leciester, give the teams more respect, the lads out there will still find a way to the goal, they just wont need as many