LinoJo3 5,505 13.2k Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 31 minutes ago, Changing Times said: Of course we can but then the game is likely to be completely different. We'll have more of the ball, we'll be the ones pushing forward, we won't be hitting teams on the break, so it will be what we're doing now just with a different shape. It'll be a version of what we saw under Wilder except that now we have Ayling as a wingback rather than Jones. I really don't see how this makes us a better attacking team, which is ultimately what our issues are, at least at home. Can’t it just be because the players who played did well and earned a place in the next 11? The only change we can really make anyway is bring Forrs or Greenwood in for McNair and Dieng for Glover. Weve had a crap few weeks so I don’t see why not just go with the same team that’s delivered us a good result and decent performance. It doesn’t have to be some grand philosophy change by Carrick, rather just try and get some consistency going for the rest of this season. It’s not like we’re sacrificing something that’s bringing us results. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changing Times 15,603 22.7k Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 1 minute ago, LinoJo3 said: Can’t it just be because the players who played did well and earned a place in the next 11? The only change we can really make anyway is bring Forrs or Greenwood in for McNair and Dieng for Glover. Weve had a crap few weeks so I don’t see why not just go with the same team that’s delivered us a good result and decent performance. It doesn’t have to be some grand philosophy change by Carrick, rather just try and get some consistency going for the rest of this season. It’s not like we’re sacrificing something that’s bringing us results. You, well Carrick obviously, can pick the team for any reasons mate, that's not really what I'm talking about though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJew 3,651 6.1k Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 Super Sammy will get us goals up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changing Times 15,603 22.7k Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 14 minutes ago, TheJew said: Super Sammy will get us goals up top. Best finisher at the club 🙌 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJew 3,651 6.1k Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 6 minutes ago, Changing Times said: Best finisher at the club 🙌 Looks a far more natural striker than ever a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changing Times 15,603 22.7k Posted February 19, 2024 Share Posted February 19, 2024 11 minutes ago, TheJew said: Looks a far more natural striker than ever a winger. His pace makes him more of a threat than say Greenwood but he'd have to hit the target a bit more often than he has done so far for that to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyspite 716 5.6k Posted February 20, 2024 Share Posted February 20, 2024 9 hours ago, Changing Times said: His pace makes him more of a threat than say Greenwood but he'd have to hit the target a bit more often than he has done so far for that to be true. Well its not like Greenwood hits the target.... 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downsouth 8,142 39k Posted February 20, 2024 Share Posted February 20, 2024 The forum set a new record during this game at one point we had 1465 members or not signed in members viewing the thread. Actually getting up to 1400 has been quite regular of late so all I can say is stop lurking and sign in! Up to you but really thanks very much for the interest shown. You have to wonder how many would view if we were currently a top 6 side 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnaby 1,129 2.2k Posted February 20, 2024 Share Posted February 20, 2024 12 hours ago, Changing Times said: No, we looked more solid with a game plan that stuck everyone behind the ball, and we rarely ventured forward. McNair had nothing to do with it. It was the same against Chelsea in the first leg but McNair didn't play in that one. It's a logical fallacy, in Latin they say 'post hoc ergo propter hoc', which means 'after therefore because of this'. In other words because an event occurred first then it must have caused the later event. At the moment we have a couple of these on this thread. One is that we changed the system, and won, therefore the change in system is responsible. This one mentioned by you is that McNair came into the side, and we looked more solid, therefore we looked more solid because McNair came into the side. Both ignore the context of the game or evidence in previous games. We weren't defensively solid in this game being quite an important point but not being defensively solid somehow has less importance when the other team don't take their chances. In the aforementioned Chelsea game we also weren't solid, and we should have lost by a couple, but they missed their own easy chances, and we got away with it. Then of course people were on that thread after the game saying the same things that they are now for the same reasons. I think we need to be careful not to go over the top on the back of a positive result especially when there's enough evidence out there to suggest different things. This game might have suited this set up to an extent but that doesn't mean that other games will be the same, and again, I don't think we were solid at all anyway, I think people are talking themselves into something that isn't true. If Leicester take their good chances, not even any half chances, they score 4 or 5 in that game, and nobody is talking about us being solid afterwards. I've mentioned Rotherham a few times on this thread to try and get my point across better, we've scored 1 goal in two games against them, does anyone on here think they looked solid against us because I certainly didn't. We screwed ourselves out of two wins against them, and Leicester screwed themselves out of a win against us. I don't believe Rotherham had much to do with our failings, and I don't believe that we had that much to do with Leicester's. I'm optomistic anyway 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foogle 2,226 3.6k Posted February 20, 2024 Share Posted February 20, 2024 (edited) 6 hours ago, Downsouth said: The forum set a new record during this game at one point we had 1465 members or not signed in members viewing the thread. Actually getting up to 1400 has been quite regular of late so all I can say is stop lurking and sign in! Up to you but really thanks very much for the interest shown. You have to wonder how many would view if we were currently a top 6 side Very few, what would there be to complain about? 🤠 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erimus74 5,259 5.4k Posted February 20, 2024 Share Posted February 20, 2024 5 minutes ago, Foogle said: Very few, what would there be to complain about? 🤠 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnaby 1,129 2.2k Posted February 20, 2024 Share Posted February 20, 2024 3 hours ago, Foogle said: Very few, what would there be to complain about? 🤠 I was too busy biting me nails to complain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyboro 1,175 1.5k Posted February 20, 2024 Share Posted February 20, 2024 Good to see sonny finch back on the bench for the u21s tonight 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob 6,209 9.5k Posted February 20, 2024 Share Posted February 20, 2024 21 hours ago, TheJew said: Looks a far more natural striker than ever a winger. thats him banished back to the wing then lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changing Times 15,603 22.7k Posted February 20, 2024 Share Posted February 20, 2024 11 hours ago, ladyspite said: Well its not like Greenwood hits the target.... 😜 When it comes to hitting the target, Silvera has got just over 18% of his shots on target this season. That's one of the lowest figures in our team. Fry's is actually higher, and as far as I can see there are only a few players worse than him - Hackney, Barlaser, Smith, Ayling, Clarke and the goalkeepers. That's not great but alongside that, he actually has taken more shots than anyone in our squad this season, other than Greenwood as it happens. So not only has been shooting a lot, he's been missing most of the time as well. The joking about Silvera's finishing hasn't been a result of fans not being fair to him, it's been because his shooting since he joined us has largely been terrible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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