Boro v Plymouth 0-2

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1 hour ago, Neverbefore said:

I think more than that we need a player in midfield who can see danger early and snuff it out. Nearly all our goals against come as a result of us losing the ball and failing to get back into shape quickly enough. A midfielder who covers effectively and is extremely athletic has to be the number one priority. I know you love howson but he ain't that, and neither is anyone else on our books.

I agree we need that type of player but i think it goes beyond that.  Its not about 1 player imo.We need a stronger defensive mentality  from keeper to centre forward.Not in a Pulis sense but  i would love to see players putting their bodies on the line to stop a cross or a shot  just for once determined to keep a clean sheet. Mentally we seem very weak & crumble far too often.

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1 minute ago, Leesider said:

I agree we need that type of player but i think it goes beyond that.  Its not about 1 player imo.We need a stronger defensive mentality  from keeper to centre forward.Not in a Pulis sense but  i would love to see players putting their bodies on the line to stop a cross or a shot  just for once determined to keep a clean sheet. Mentally we seem very weak & crumble far too often.

Too many of them just want to play ineffective fannying about football. No guts for a battle 

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6 minutes ago, Blanco said:

Too many of them just want to play ineffective fannying about football. No guts for a battle 

Im sensing you are a fan of  Detective Grim from 'The Thin Blue Line'😁😁😁

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5 minutes ago, Leesider said:

Im sensing you are a fan of  Detective Grim from 'The Thin Blue Line'😁😁😁

My favourite quote from him was “your cockup” “my ***” 😂😂😂

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I liked his plan for juvenile offenders.

You nick em

You lock em up

You throw away the door🤭

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1 hour ago, Dynamo Kev said:

i'll try not to over react after that *** show.

recruitment: is nothing short of embarrassing. we signed thomas and ayling in jan due to injuries and they are totally cack. far worse than our injured players. azaz i like though. but selling rogers and not bringing in a striker is utter ***. its fine to bring is second class fullbacks but never bothered with a stiker and played loads without a striker because of it. carrick and scott u are useless. 

performances: we continue to have to play players who clearly are to *** for us. the likes of the loanee's and barlaser etc etc. teams not good enough, which is a joke. 

tactics: carrick is a fool, trying to play clever set up and such. all he's doing is confusing his players. yesterday in that game silviera mcgree and azaz looked lost. they didnt know what they were supposed to be doing. 

the play our from the back tosh, is infuriating, the keeper is crap at it, barlaser is crap at it, the defenders clearly dont like doing it. they can't be enjoying passing across the backline. us fans hate it. its costing us goals almost every game wtf is carrick trying to achieve. he's a fool. 

 

my verdict, Sack carrick now because i absolutely do not want to see another season of this utter garbage. we are going nowhere under him. had a good run last season when he took over, what have we dont since? we are a bottom half side now. probably about right apart from the great start carrick had. i dont care about injuries we've had either, the blades had loads all last season and still won every week. its not an excuse. 

i've had enough of a middlesbrough team turn up at the riverside and barely put a tackle in. pathetic, CARRICK OUT!!!!!!!!!

Just braved watching the highlights, barlaser in involved in all the plymouth goals and big chances in a negative way. glover for their first goal. carrick is a fool starting him if dieng is fit. all on him.

Ouch, now what do you really think you little teaser🙃

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1 hour ago, Dynamo Kev said:

i'll try not to over react after that *** show.

recruitment: is nothing short of embarrassing. we signed thomas and ayling in jan due to injuries and they are totally cack. far worse than our injured players. azaz i like though. but selling rogers and not bringing in a striker is utter ***. its fine to bring is second class fullbacks but never bothered with a stiker and played loads without a striker because of it. carrick and scott u are useless. 

performances: we continue to have to play players who clearly are to *** for us. the likes of the loanee's and barlaser etc etc. teams not good enough, which is a joke. 

tactics: carrick is a fool, trying to play clever set up and such. all he's doing is confusing his players. yesterday in that game silviera mcgree and azaz looked lost. they didnt know what they were supposed to be doing. 

the play our from the back tosh, is infuriating, the keeper is crap at it, barlaser is crap at it, the defenders clearly dont like doing it. they can't be enjoying passing across the backline. us fans hate it. its costing us goals almost every game wtf is carrick trying to achieve. he's a fool. 

 

my verdict, Sack carrick now because i absolutely do not want to see another season of this utter garbage. we are going nowhere under him. had a good run last season when he took over, what have we dont since? we are a bottom half side now. probably about right apart from the great start carrick had. i dont care about injuries we've had either, the blades had loads all last season and still won every week. its not an excuse. 

i've had enough of a middlesbrough team turn up at the riverside and barely put a tackle in. pathetic, CARRICK OUT!!!!!!!!!

Just braved watching the highlights, barlaser in involved in all the plymouth goals and big chances in a negative way. glover for their first goal. carrick is a fool starting him if dieng is fit. all on him.

Jesus this is some statement! 

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2 hours ago, Donnyboro said:

We need a midfielder who has a bit of nasty  streak in him also with a defensive mind. We concede fair too many goals on the turn over when the centre half’s don’t know whether to close the space or back off 

I not seeing we will sign top drawer like Boateng or Ince but surely we could find a Leadbitter, Cattermole type player. Obviously,  the likes of Mick Kennedy or Dean Glover would be permanently suspended in today's football. A player like that and some pace in the team and we would look far better. 

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2 hours ago, TeaCider24 said:

I was actually surprised just how quickly the crowd in the north stand turned yesterday, considering we'd just had a good win.

The abuse and jeers began when it was still 0-0 and there was a lot of anger about the needlessly dangerous playing out from the back, obviously that then costing us a goal made things even sourer.

All positivity is gone.

The past couple of weeks haven’t exactly been great though, have they?  The win at Leicester was good but most of us weren’t actually there to see it.  Yesterday felt a lot like the Bristol City game right from the start, and I think people picked up on that quite quickly.

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2 minutes ago, Changing Times said:

The past couple of weeks haven’t exactly been great though, have they?  The win at Leicester was good but most of us weren’t actually there to see it.  Yesterday felt a lot like the Bristol City game right from the start, and I think people picked up on that quite quickly.

Aye, I get why the fans were frustrated, I just wasn't expecting the atmosphere to turn sour so quickly, but I guess plenty of the fans in the stadium might not even watch the streams of the away matches and we're atrocious at home.

We've won 1 of the last 8 home league matches and that win was on the 23rd of December.

Of those 7 matches we didn't win, it's only the Sunderland match where we even played well, the rest we were woeful, with yesterday being the worst of the lot.

We're 17th in the home form table, with 6 wins in 17 games and 5 of those were in a 6 game spell between late September and November.

It's been a miserable experience going to the matches since Christmas.

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This was our biggest chance of the match and he put it out for a throw-in.

I'm almost relieved we were already 2-0 down as I think my head would have split if that had had anything riding on it.

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2 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said:

This was our biggest chance of the match and he put it out for a throw-in.

I'm almost relieved we were already 2-0 down as I think my head would have split if that had had anything riding on it.

Let’s try and be a bit more positive. Maybe it was a cross 🙃

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20 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said:

This was our biggest chance of the match and he put it out for a throw-in.

I'm almost relieved we were already 2-0 down as I think my head would have split if that had had anything riding on it.

Yeah I was thinking yesterday that I never once had one of those 'jump out of the chair' moments but I think given the context of the situation when that one came about then it's probably more the scoreline than the chance that led to my apathy. 😂

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3 hours ago, Neverbefore said:

I think more than that we need a player in midfield who can see danger early and snuff it out. Nearly all our goals against come as a result of us losing the ball and failing to get back into shape quickly enough. A midfielder who covers effectively and is extremely athletic has to be the number one priority. I know you love howson but he ain't that, and neither is anyone else on our books.

Was saying something similar yesterday,   I’m no great lover of howson but he still occasionally shows quick feet or quick decision to get himself out of trouble, barlaser has neither of those attributes so just gets himself robbed.
I think Barlaser capability in that role was even more exposed next to o’brien yesterday. I originally thought obrien was going to be a replacement for howson but appears to be more a “busy” box to box type.

Our defenders haven’t suddenly become bad players, they’re just getting exposed far too often. so finding a player who can use the ball like howson but also sniff out danger more effectively would also be my priority. Absolutely no idea who’d fit the bill mind…. Claude makalele?

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5 minutes ago, HoyteForLeftBack said:

Was saying something similar yesterday,   I’m no great lover of howson but he still occasionally shows quick feet or quick decision to get himself out of trouble, barlaser has neither of those attributes so just gets himself robbed.
I think Barlaser capability in that role was even more exposed next to o’brien yesterday. I originally thought obrien was going to be a replacement for howson but appears to be more a “busy” box to box type.

Our defenders haven’t suddenly become bad players, they’re just getting exposed far too often. so finding a player who can use the ball like howson but also sniff out danger more effectively would also be my priority. Absolutely no idea who’d fit the bill mind…. Claude makalele?

We're awful defensively yet our centre backs very rarely have particularly poor games. Changing the defence would do nothing. 

I wonder if onyeka will be available in the summer, he seems like he'd fit the bill.