11 minutes ago, LinoJo3 said:

I agree with that last bit, I’m hoping supporters don’t start crying to get a defensive guy in bc the attacking guy didn’t work because that would make us just as bad as the clubs been playing ver the past few years. If Carrick did leave then someone in the same vein is a must otherwise there’s just no point.

I think the issue I have is that fans take a binary approach. It’s as though you can’t be attacking and still know how to defend and vice versa. You look at most league tables and you will see the top performing teams score the most and concede the least.

If you wanted to be binary then we have a big issue because we aren’t doing it at either end. We aren’t loosing games 4-3 we are largely being easily beaten.

I think at this point there’s a strong argument to tighten things up. Give us a platform to build on.

For me it’s about shape, positioning and probability a bit on the mental side of the game. 

3 hours ago, LinoJo3 said:

I do find it funny that this time last year Carrick was seen as almost a genius for switching Akpoms role and getting a great season out of him. A year later and apparently Akpom was actually the genius and let Carrick fluke a good season.

I mean if your saying last season was all down to the players and they made Carrick look good, why can that not also apply to this season and it’s the players making Carrick look bad? Let’s be honest it’s just reactionary opinions and confirmation bias and it’s really an irrelevant argument.

I’m not trying to take one side over the other but we can at least be fair when analysing Carricks performance. We can’t take away the credit he got last season just because he’s now in the bad books. If you don’t want give him credit for last season then by definition you should absolve him of blame for this season.

Its almost as bad as the guy who said ‘we were only good for 6 months last season’ lol.

agree with the reactionary opinions. but most probably feel that way for a reason. i think carrick found a system that worked with the team last season. but has still tried to use it this season with different players. it clearly does not work one bit. hes tried changing things in games but nothing is working for him. but he is very stubborn and we are all seeing the same failing and carrick doesnt seem to mix it up much. he still doesnt change things ingame at all most of the time and when he does make a change its usually to late anyway. i think hes had his hands tied somewhat with the injuries but reality is he is coming up short time and time again. i'm feeling like he just got lucky last season with the likes of chuba and hackney doing so well, the team were really giving it a go. but that all seems a long time ago now. he has a good start and thats it. hes not done anything to suggest hes a good manager. i'm only seeing signs hes not a very good manager. the signs are, the players look lost on the pitch, poorly motivated and all we see is the same mistakes from the same players every week and he does nothing. hes finished here. 

36 minutes ago, Dynamo Kev said:

agree with the reactionary opinions. but most probably feel that way for a reason. i think carrick found a system that worked with the team last season. but has still tried to use it this season with different players. it clearly does not work one bit. hes tried changing things in games but nothing is working for him. but he is very stubborn and we are all seeing the same failing and carrick doesnt seem to mix it up much. he still doesnt change things ingame at all most of the time and when he does make a change its usually to late anyway. i think hes had his hands tied somewhat with the injuries but reality is he is coming up short time and time again. i'm feeling like he just got lucky last season with the likes of chuba and hackney doing so well, the team were really giving it a go. but that all seems a long time ago now. he has a good start and thats it. hes not done anything to suggest hes a good manager. i'm only seeing signs hes not a very good manager. the signs are, the players look lost on the pitch, poorly motivated and all we see is the same mistakes from the same players every week and he does nothing. hes finished here. 

Again im not arguing whether he is or isn’t a good manager, simply that it’s a bit unfair to dismiss last season as ‘lucky’, it’s no surprise that a manager does better with better players surely? 
 

I do think Carrick is a ‘luxury’ manager though and he needs better than average championship players to do well. I also agree about the stubbornness to adapt to the quality of player we have.

11 hours ago, LinoJo3 said:

I do think Carrick is a ‘luxury’ manager though and he needs better than average championship players to do well. I also agree about the stubbornness to adapt to the quality of player we have.

For me the word "luxury" pretty much nails it with him. Put him in charge of a United or City or a Liverpool and I think he would like as not be successful, it's where he is familiar and comfortable. Last Season he had pretty much five players who were probably the best in the Championship in their respective positions or at least amongst the very best and others who were pretty decent at the level. I think he is struggling because he is trying to get donkeys to run like thoroughbreds and simply doesn't know any other way.

3 hours ago, Redcar Rioja said:

For me the word "luxury" pretty much nails it with him. Put him in charge of a United or City or a Liverpool and I think he would like as not be successful, it's where he is familiar and comfortable. Last Season he had pretty much five players who were probably the best in the Championship in their respective positions or at least amongst the very best and others who were pretty decent at the level. I think he is struggling because he is trying to get donkeys to run like thoroughbreds and simply doesn't know any other way.

Glover isn't a donkey he is an ass! along with a few others mind🤪

Often makes me wonder what the academy actually does.