Hammy legend 1,132 1.2k Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 McCabe did well today but Hamilton isn't ready. Glover was poor, Burgzorg isn't a striker on his own upfront 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martonboro 498 505 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Hamilton is so lightweight and, quite frankly, clearly isn't up for the battle that that championship demands of players. Doesn't want to tackle, doesn't want to be tackled doesn't want to head the ball. He is a long long long way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldManGravz 2,012 6k Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 28 minutes ago, Borodane said: Weird philosophy. Do you really mean that you don’t need to change things during a game as you can always work on it next week? Working on it next week isn’t going to change things in a game going on. What use is a manager that can only change things next week instead of seeing things that need changing in-game. Might as well sit in the stands then. No mate, I'm saying that if we learn from our mistakes and do things right in training then Carrick should be able to stand like a statue at the weekends, because everything should be going right during the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammy legend 1,132 1.2k Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Martonboro, I agree with you and my biggest problem about Hamilton is that he is 21 and looks nowhere near first team. Pollock and Cattermole were playing at 17, now I know, they were more physical players but Morrison was at 17/18. I think young players just playing age related games can hold them back, sometimes they need to go on loan and play against older and tougher players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borodane 7,357 27k Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, OldManGravz said: No mate, I'm saying that if we learn from our mistakes and do things right in training then Carrick should be able to stand like a statue at the weekends, because everything should be going right during the game Yeah but it doesn’t really work like that hence why you need a manager that can change a game when it’s not going to plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkT73 743 820 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 I think the fact we changed ends after winning the toss, clearly we knew the sun would be low over the south roof. Then took precisely zero shots at their keeper. Inept 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnglianRed 7,249 17.1k Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Borodane said: Weird philosophy. Do you really mean that you don’t need to change things during a game as you can always work on it next week? Working on it next week isn’t going to change things in a game going on. What use is a manager that can only change things next week instead of seeing things that need changing in-game. Might as well sit in the stands then. I think what OMG was getting at is that if we worked on specific things, such as improving defensive co-ordination, set pieces, wide play / crossing etc. we'd see these things during matches. Instead we seem to keep making similar mistakes match after match. Your other point about being able to change things during a game is another, much-lamented, failure of Carrick's. While there are probably a few exceptions, I've lost count of the number games where things haven't been working and the only thing he's done is make like-for-like subs midway through the 2nd half. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinoJo3 4,662 12k Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 I think our left attack side has been a much bigger problem this season than given credit for. Burgzorg is generally bang average and McGree has been half his usual self. If we had someone as influential as Doak on the left side aswell then we’d look a different team altogether. Of the summer signings I think only Doak, Conway and Morris have been worthy of it. Borges average, Hamilton no where near ready though I guess you can say Edmundson has been good over all. When you look at it neutrally like that we’ve got one side of the team playing totally average and when one of the cm is missing the other one is half as effective. Once again it’s looking like a big investment needed in the summer and that’s with hoping we can keep Azaz. We’d need a LB, LW, RW straight off the bat and we also need to decide if Hackney is living up to the hype or maybe we could do better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SzilardNemethsCurtains 3,464 3.9k Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 7 minutes ago, Hammy legend said: McCabe did well today but Hamilton isn't ready. Glover was poor, Burgzorg isn't a striker on his own upfront Well is a stretch, I didn't think McCabe was any better than Hamilton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeaCider24 16,137 21.1k Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Lewis Wing scores his traditional long range goal against Burnley, went straight through the keeper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeaCider24 16,137 21.1k Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 West Brom got absolutely battered by Bournemouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarBoro 1,062 1.4k Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 26 minutes ago, SzilardNemethsCurtains said: Well is a stretch, I didn't think McCabe was any better than Hamilton Each to their own. I thought McCabe had a good game. He was the only one trying to turn opponents and push forward passes through. He reminded me of Hackney when he first appeared in first team. To me there’s a lot of potential there. i also though Hamilton looked more comfortable on right than on left, though I agree he’s not ready yet. Trouble is, if you don’t play him (and we’ve played him out of position, I think) then he never will be ready. I think there is a player in there and it will take time and effort to make it work for him. I also think the Carrick style of being ultra careful and recycling the ball so often doesn’t help - he seemed to be doing”what he was told” rather than being willing to take a chance. glover was poor - but face it, he’s third choice. You may get a keeper better than him with his feet, but in overall terms including shot stopping and catching, I doubt we can afford to upgrade there. Barlaser simply proved he needs moving on and Edmondson, for me, showed why we shouldn’t offer him a long term contract. my big worry is, as others say, how static we are at back. So slow and prone to recycling ball numerous times. Sometimes a long ball over top or an attempt to bisect opponents is needed and definitely, more speed in coming out from back. It was too easy for Rovers today - by the time we decided to move forwards they could regroup and present a 10 man defence, even though they weren’t ultra defensive. In contract they seemed to be able to pile players forward and stretch our defence when they got the ball. It seems obvious, but Carrick appears wedded to his method and I don’t think we will improve much whilst that is case. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanddancer 2,046 6.2k Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ScarBoro said: Each to their own. I thought McCabe had a good game. He was the only one trying to turn opponents and push forward passes through. He reminded me of Hackney when he first appeared in first team. To me there’s a lot of potential there. i also though Hamilton looked more comfortable on right than on left, though I agree he’s not ready yet. Trouble is, if you don’t play him (and we’ve played him out of position, I think) then he never will be ready. I think there is a player in there and it will take time and effort to make it work for him. I also think the Carrick style of being ultra careful and recycling the ball so often doesn’t help - he seemed to be doing”what he was told” rather than being willing to take a chance. glover was poor - but face it, he’s third choice. You may get a keeper better than him with his feet, but in overall terms including shot stopping and catching, I doubt we can afford to upgrade there. Barlaser simply proved he needs moving on and Edmondson, for me, showed why we shouldn’t offer him a long term contract. my big worry is, as others say, how static we are at back. So slow and prone to recycling ball numerous times. Sometimes a long ball over top or an attempt to bisect opponents is needed and definitely, more speed in coming out from back. It was too easy for Rovers today - by the time we decided to move forwards they could regroup and present a 10 man defence, even though they weren’t ultra defensive. In contract they seemed to be able to pile players forward and stretch our defence when they got the ball. It seems obvious, but Carrick appears wedded to his method and I don’t think we will improve much whilst that is case. That is one for me. By the time we recycle and decide to move forward the opposition have the draw bridge up and all entrances protected. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coney3 28 24 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 It seems there is a sense of apathy towards losing in this squad. Whilst bringing in some players in will help, I’m really doubting Carrick’s management to cultivate a strong and determined mindset. Today was a perfect example of that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinemrippers 1,039 1.1k Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 It’s just so dull to watch. When we went on that run a while back scoring for fun, we were actually putting the ball in the box or having a shot. We’ve now reverted to constantly “recycling the ball” and getting precisely nowhere. ELL is wasted in this team, he’ll leave and score a lorry load of goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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