Millwall v Boro 1-0

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Any apathy towards the team now is all just relative

Carrick's 1st season was so good that it makes this season look so bad

But this season is still light years ahead of Woodgate, Pulis and Wilder for me 

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1 minute ago, LinoJo3 said:

I swear you made post after post last season laughing at people who wanted Carrick replaced by similarly awful managers. Sean Dyche? No *** thanks.

Now will sign my soul over to the devil for some sustained premier league football 

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1 hour ago, LBP said:

Look I knew it midweek and now it should be known by all

This season is over

We don't have the attacking players to beat any good side over 2 legs

The season was probably done and dusted when Nacho was signed by Scott to replace Latte Lath but was fully realised by me the other night against Leeds, an overall lack of quality and pretty much all the forwards bar Conway I wouldn't miss 

I wouldnt miss Conway either. He is a total pansy.

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6 minutes ago, LBP said:

Now will sign my soul over to the devil for some sustained premier league football 

And if it doesn’t work out then what? Dyche would be a classic Boro appointment, spend money trying to play football with a upcoming manager, see that it hasn’t worked so go for the nearest dinosaur with ‘experience’ to try get a quick fix. 
 

It’s easy to say it now like I can see the benefits it ‘could’ bring getting Dyche in, we would have a shape, stronger defensively, won’t lose many maybe.

But nobody thinks of the other side. Say we concede an early goal and keep trying to get the ball wide but the other team know that so just block our avenues, so we lump it in from deeper and it just comes back. Maybe the midfielders don’t commit forward as much and we have nothing central. So people are crying out for us to try something different, we’re ’to predictable’ etc

Surely we don’t want to go down those roads again? For once let’s just stick to a plan, cooper is the obvious choice for starters, not only would he be far more compatible with our current players but also has better recent success than Dyche does.

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1 minute ago, LinoJo3 said:

And if it doesn’t work out then what? Dyche would be a classic Boro appointment, spend money trying to play football with a upcoming manager, see that it hasn’t worked so go for the nearest dinosaur with ‘experience’ to try get a quick fix. 
 

It’s easy to say it now like I can see the benefits it ‘could’ bring getting Dyche in, we would have a shape, stronger defensively, won’t lose many maybe.

But nobody thinks of the other side. Say we concede an early goal and keep trying to get the ball wide but the other team know that so just block our avenues, so we lump it in from deeper and it just comes back. Maybe the midfielders don’t commit forward as much and we have nothing central. So people are crying out for us to try something different, we’re ’to predictable’ etc

Surely we don’t want to go down those roads again? For once let’s just stick to a plan, cooper is the obvious choice for starters, not only would he be far more compatible with our current players but also has better recent success than Dyche does.

You reckon we have a plan? More over if do do you think it is working on the pitch?

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1 minute ago, LinoJo3 said:

And if it doesn’t work out then what? Dyche would be a classic Boro appointment, spend money trying to play football with a upcoming manager, see that it hasn’t worked so go for the nearest dinosaur with ‘experience’ to try get a quick fix. 
 

It’s easy to say it now like I can see the benefits it ‘could’ bring getting Dyche in, we would have a shape, stronger defensively, won’t lose many maybe.

But nobody thinks of the other side. Say we concede an early goal and keep trying to get the ball wide but the other team know that so just block our avenues, so we lump it in from deeper and it just comes back. Maybe the midfielders don’t commit forward as much and we have nothing central. So people are crying out for us to try something different, we’re ’to predictable’ etc

Surely we don’t want to go down those roads again? For once let’s just stick to a plan, cooper is the obvious choice for starters, not only would he be far more compatible with our current players but also has better recent success than Dyche does.

I think Cooper's overrated tbh 

At least Dyche got autos easily in his last 2 seasons in the champ

Cooper fluked an undeserving play off final 

But yeah I'd rather an attacking manager which I think neither of those are tbh, I'm just sick as fook

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47 minutes ago, Bruce said:

Bristol City sold their top striker (to us). Millwall sold their two star forwards, Flemming and Esse and replaced them with a loan of our third choice striker. Coventry lost their star #10 on a free. WBA spent 3 years paying nothing for players and lost their manager but still have somehow managed to end up above us. Sunderland lost their star winger and are so far above us we can hardly see them despite them having to make do with Aaron Connolly as a striker for half a season. 

By comparison with these, Carrick is managing on easy street.

Or would be if our players didn't keep getting injured all at the same time... 😉

But yeah, when you look at it like that, it doesn't paint our manager & coaches in a great light.

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29 minutes ago, BoroSmoggie said:

Not really. I was never as apathetic towards Boro in them seasons as I have been this season. 

Pulis was by far the worst for me anyway.He somehow managed to eliminate all joy & entertainment from the games.I lost all interest tbh

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38 minutes ago, Rioch's Braves said:

If Carrick was a nasty git I think he'd still be crap, you've either got it or you haven't and unfortunately.

I think you need a certain charisma & people skills to be a good manager. Also need to be a great communicator / motivator.

To be honest, from what I've seen of him during matches and heard during interviews, the bloke is a personality vacuum.

He might be a great guy and know more about football than most of us, but he doesn't strike me as someone to mould a group of people together and get them working as a unified team. I also don't think he has the adaptability to make timely changes to affect the outcome of a match, or change tactics, unless forced to by injuries.

He has his Plan A...and thats it.

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I’m angry actually.
Questions have to be asked why we have stuck to the same system all season when it quite clearly is so limited. That’s what annoys me the most. I honestly think the players look so bored and uninterested now too 

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1 minute ago, AnglianRed said:

He has his Plan A...and thats it.

Even today, something that was even unusual for him is that he brought Iheanacho on for Dijksteel, and rather than shift the shape at all (when it clearly wasn't working or putting nearly enough pressure on them) he just moved Morris to right-back, pulled back McGree into midfield and played Nacho in kind of his usual position. It wasn't your standard 'go for it' change, in terms of personnel on one side of it you look at it and think defender for attacker, but we just ended up with more players playing out of position in the same system. It was very, very odd. It's like he thought the goal would come but we just needed to change the people. Was pathetic, really was.

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the current crop of players I think would suit Russell Martin more than carrick but I think we change system over the summer anyway 

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1 minute ago, ManBearPig said:

I’m angry actually.
Questions have to be asked why we have stuck to the same system all season when it quite clearly is so limited. That’s what annoys me the most. I honestly think the players look so bored and uninterested now too 

Not the only ones bored. So many games this season have had me dreaming of stripping wall paper.

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14 minutes ago, Robin Johnson said:

You reckon we have a plan? More over if do do you think it is working on the pitch?

It’s clearly not working on the pitch is it but just from that you can’t suddenly go oh scrap it try something new. That’s literally the whole reason the club was in a mess in the first place, it’s literally why calls for Gibson out we’re getting louder and louder. 
 

Again this craving for instant perfection just won’t ever do anyone any favours. OH NO THE MANAGER NEVER WORKED OUT THAT MEANS ITS NEVER GOING TO WORKK NOOOO AHHHHHH PANICCCCC SCREAM SHOUT AND CRYYYY REBUILDS NOOOOO.

It happens, so you try again. This place is full of people crying over things that when you actually look are just normal in football. So we need 10 players in summer? So what? Plenty of teams sign that amount pretty regularly. We need a new manager? Again so what, plenty of teams replace managers in summer. 
 

I just don’t get these big melt downs just because something hasn’t gone perfectly to plan, like it’s literally life, it happens all the time in every area

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He's even said we were really good in the first half. We weren't. We were the better team but we weren't really good at all. We created one decent chance but otherwise fluffed our moments to create something. This guy thinks because the rest of the division is bang average that we can call this team really good when it just about looks the better team. That should have been the bare minimum today in that first half, they were not a great side but ultimately in that second half, the only determining factor is that they came out trying to win the game whilst we still hoped something would drop for us without putting much thought into it. Neil made changes to try and make something happen, he obviously got something out of them in the dressing room and Carrick probably just told them to keep at it because he thought we were 'really good' and just needed to keep at it.