LinoJo3 5,822 13.6k Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 11 minutes ago, Changing Times said: This is where we disagree then because Conway, Morris definitely haven't. The odd good game isn't enough, it's what you do across a season. Rogers didn't play that well for us. It's become a convenient thing to suggest that he did but he didn't. It was a good spot to nab him in the first place I agree but we didn't improve for him being here. He was a downgrade on the player who was here before him. If he'd stayed then who knows, we might well be having a different conversation, but he didn't. Lath we played a blinder on when selling him as we got more than he's worth. Nice business financially, and I've said the same on the forum previously. I completely agree with you that the financial side of things are important to us, I'm not trying to underplay that, but that can't the primary goal? I assume it isn't anyway. All daftness aside, I'm sure Gibson wants promotion more than he wants a profitable club if you see what I mean. I don't think the current squad is distant from the 2022 team, I think that would be over the top. But it has gone backwards, and all of the money coming in is only truly useful if we can turn that into better players. That's why I said in my post earlier that I feel like we need a summer window where we nail four or five signings that do it on the pitch for us from the start. Personally I think had we been in good form in January, cemented in the play off spots and pushing 3rd/4th then lath would have stayed. Even then though I don’t think the issue was actually selling him, it was the replacement. If he’d even been semi adequately replaced we’d have got 6th place I feel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 3,528 8.9k Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 37 minutes ago, Plastic Goat said: The question posed at the start of this thread has still not been answered. What the hell is going on? It's taken us slightly more than 2 weeks to replace our manager and some infants are annoyed about it. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverbefore 15,137 29.4k Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 54 minutes ago, Plastic Goat said: The question posed at the start of this thread has still not been answered. What the hell is going on? I refuse to believe you're a real person 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob 6,489 9.9k Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, LinoJo3 said: Tbf Dieng was a great signing until he returned from that afcon tournament, not sure what’s gone on with him. I think the main issue was him not being automatic first choice, its really what he came here for its likely if he wanted to sit on the bench he could double+ his wages by being 2nd/3rd choice in the prem. He was linked with that also last year too its the most believable option for me that fits when I think about it, 1st time he come back from being nailed on first choice to having to wait for glover to lose his place because unlike glover he didn't decline the international duty. 2nd time he's basically dropped for our academy graduate, which I imagine was even more annoying for him not that some of his performances this season didn't warrant Byrnn getting a chance, but must of been frustrating for him being our keeper with some of howlers happening in front of him most weeks and maybe blames some of the tactics on on his bad form. if he has had an issue with carrick they are probs the source of the reasons, but then I take that with a pinch of salt since its basically gossip 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macapes 2,921 3.1k Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 58 minutes ago, Plastic Goat said: The question posed at the start of this thread has still not been answered. What the hell is going on? You somehow have an "impeccable source" on Carricks sacking and Cooper "turning down the job" yet this is stumping you? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob 6,489 9.9k Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Neverbefore said: I refuse to believe you're a real person !he demands they make an announcement so he knows who the manager is! even tho everyone knows who the manager is, imagine if it wasnt edwards, then guy everyone said was his best buddy in life, stitched him up to cost him the city job only for us to give it to someone else 🤣 PG needs to save his energy because by Tuesday he will have some moaning to do when no players have been signed, and needs a little left in the tank for the disappointing pre-season friendly results 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changing Times 16,078 23.1k Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 35 minutes ago, LinoJo3 said: Personally I think had we been in good form in January, cemented in the play off spots and pushing 3rd/4th then lath would have stayed. Even then though I don’t think the issue was actually selling him, it was the replacement. If he’d even been semi adequately replaced we’d have got 6th place I feel. You could be right mate although I get the feeling that he was looking for a pay rise. I know people blame his agent but usually this stuff is driven by the player, and I don't blame him really. Probably grew up in poverty, and won't have signed a big contract anywhere, then someone says we'd like to pay you a few million quid a year, and what are you going to think? It's easy to talk about careers and winning stuff but it's his job, and when you haven't earned that much up until this point then it's completely natural to want the money. Obviously how we ended up replacing him was a cock up but even then if Whittaker had got going we might not have missed him as much. It's just unfortunate that he couldn't find his form, Iheanacho wasn't fit, and Iling-Junior wasn't ready either. We added three attacking players, and we only lost one (two if you count Doak's injury), but none of them could get anywhere near their best. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changing Times 16,078 23.1k Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 9 minutes ago, Rob said: PG needs to save his energy because by Tuesday he will have some moaning to do when no players have been signed, and needs a little left in the tank for the disappointing pre-season friendly results Aye, we've got a long and miserable summer ahead so you've got to pace yourself a bit. It's a marathon not a sprint. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swifty 641 662 Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 1 hour ago, Plastic Goat said: The question posed at the start of this thread has still not been answered. What the hell is going on? What’s going on? Have you not read the last 289 pages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob 6,489 9.9k Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Swifty said: What’s going on? Have you not read the last 289 pages? we need a concise who is the next manager thread 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoroDave4 1,655 3.5k Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 I have to imagine the hold up on the announcement is finalizing deals for the additional staff, then the "coaching team" can be announced. Which honestly is a smart move because if they indeed have a high quality staff along side Edwards, it'll change the perspective on the appointment for plenty of (sensible) fans. As for the 10 ish days before it was basically rubber stamped, I think at hadn't done any pre-work honestly. Which tells me they really thought Carrick would still be in charge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changing Times 16,078 23.1k Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 I did wonder if the delay was perhaps to do with the club wanting people to get used to the idea before the announcement. That was just based on a few things I've read on here and FMTTM about stuff that's being said on social media being quite negative. I think it's more likely to be staff related as BoroDave4 says though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeaCider24 18,385 23.4k Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 It's 100% just to stick one to talkSPORT. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBP 4,251 6.9k Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Changing Times said: I did wonder if the delay was perhaps to do with the club wanting people to get used to the idea before the announcement. That was just based on a few things I've read on here and FMTTM about stuff that's being said on social media being quite negative. I think it's more likely to be staff related as BoroDave4 says though. Softening the blow What I think as well Drag it out to get more on board with it, you can already see it’s had that effect with plenty on here It’s not a ‘blow’ obviously but not the name many wanted so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changing Times 16,078 23.1k Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 26 minutes ago, LBP said: Softening the blow What I think as well Drag it out to get more on board with it, you can already see it’s had that effect with plenty on here It’s not a ‘blow’ obviously but not the name many wanted so I don't do X and all of those things so I don't know how bad it actually is but it sounded like there was a lot of negative stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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