Redcar Rioja 8,855 8.7k Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Shuffling the deck chairs is just delaying the inevitable. All teams suffer injuries, setbacks, loss of form, players sold etc. But that is why we have Manager's, to in effect actually manage with what they have and make the most out of it. I think Carrick's single philosophy strangled our chances and smothered players by playing them out of position. If anyone is thinking that he had it tough then read up or if you like me are old enough think back to Bruce Rioch. Also Big Jack who added a little sprinkle of magic here and there and had Boro flying. A good Manager makes the best of a bad lot. A poor Manager sticks his head in the sand and cannot think outside of his self imposed box. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManBearPig 2,231 4.1k Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 11 hours ago, LinoJo3 said: There are benefits to this, for a start none of the obvious candidates for the job are that exciting, none would fill me with optimism. Secondly there should hopefully be a few ‘fundamental’ changes behind the scenes. If we stay with Carrick and this doesn’t happen I’ll be disappointed. Thirdly Gibson will have to back his choice as best as possible now, so we should (hopefully) see a few exciting players in. Lastly if it doesn’t work I don’t think it will last long into the season before a change is made, end of September at the latest I’d say. One more thing, I think deep down everyone wants him to succeed here because we can see there is ‘something’ there in Carrick. Is there something there in Carrick? First season he had a glut of players playing above the championship and STILL couldn’t make it up. Chuba, Giles in form, Archer, Ramsay but when Cov came to town he didn’t change or adapt and they went through. That was our time to go up 100%. Since then we haven’t even been close those levels and he hasn’t changed at all his approach 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllBoro10 3,555 4.3k Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 4 minutes ago, Redcar Rioja said: Shuffling the deck chairs is just delaying the inevitable. All teams suffer injuries, setbacks, loss of form, players sold etc. But that is why we have Manager's, to in effect actually manage with what they have and make the most out of it. I think Carrick's single philosophy strangled our chances and smothered players by playing them out of position. If anyone is thinking that he had it tough then read up or if you like me are old enough think back to Bruce Rioch. Also Big Jack who added a little sprinkle of magic here and there and had Boro flying. A good Manager makes the best of a bad lot. A poor Manager sticks his head in the sand and cannot think outside of his self imposed box. Yep, I think a lack of awareness and flexibility is where he has really got it wrong. In game management appalling. I hope these are things mentioned in said review. He might not be 100 percent at fault for the shambles but he has to take a very large portion of the blame. Wouldn't be surprised if Scott wants to make the change but Gibson wants to keep him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downsouth 8,142 39k Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 We need the Chairman to outline his plans and hopes for next season and to make a club statement on matters that are concerning fans. A resounding backing of MC an the firm belief that he still is the man for the task He used to do that but not for a while now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boro-unger 4,601 17.8k Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 1 minute ago, Downsouth said: We need the Chairman to outline his plans and hopes for next season and to make a club statement on matters that are concerning fans. A resounding backing of MC an the firm belief that he still is the man for the task He used to do that but not for a while now Think he withdrew from giving statements for the most part after the 'smash the league' mockery. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyboro 1,175 1.5k Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 2 minutes ago, Downsouth said: We need the Chairman to outline his plans and hopes for next season and to make a club statement on matters that are concerning fans. A resounding backing of MC an the firm belief that he still is the man for the task He used to do that but not for a while now Isn’t that Kieran Scott’s job to do now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle_rico 508 618 Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Unfortunately I think it’s pretty clear that he’s staying. The gazette have been pushing excuses all week, no doubt drip fed from the club. I'm not happy with that, but if the whole backroom changes then I’ll be a little bit more positive than I have been for the last 3 months. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neverbefore 14,736 29.2k Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 1 hour ago, ManBearPig said: Is there something there in Carrick? First season he had a glut of players playing above the championship and STILL couldn’t make it up. Chuba, Giles in form, Archer, Ramsay but when Cov came to town he didn’t change or adapt and they went through. That was our time to go up 100%. Since then we haven’t even been close those levels and he hasn’t changed at all his approach None of which have replicated their form elsewhere, so maybe it was Carrick that was getting that form out of them? Let's not rewrite history and take credit away from Carrick just because we don't like what he's done since - those first 6 months were the best 6 months of football I've seen us play, possibly ever. Pulis and monk had just as strong an outfit, probably more so, and had us playing awful football. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeaCider24 17,814 22.9k Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 (edited) I don't think much will make me positive about him staying unless we started the season with a stunning run of form whilst playing great football. Even then, I don't think I'd trust it would last now. Hoping they can do something to win me back around, because, though it might be hard to believe, I don't actually like having a downer on things. I've just found this season incredibly demoralising and unenjoyable. Edited May 9 by TeaCider24 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatoldchestnut 895 2.1k Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 10 minutes ago, uncle_rico said: Unfortunately I think it’s pretty clear that he’s staying. The gazette have been pushing excuses all week, no doubt drip fed from the club. I'm not happy with that, but if the whole backroom changes then I’ll be a little bit more positive than I have been for the last 3 months. They will sit on their hands and do nothing. We will be watching the same insipid rubbish again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTG 3,776 3.7k Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 More than anything, I just want to feel some enthusiasm and excitement towards the club again. This season has been so demoralising and in the end it’s ground me down to the point of apathy. I’m sure given a few months away I’ll be chomping at the bit to be back supporting the boro, but at the moment I’m just burned out and I hate feeling this way about the club. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllBoro10 3,555 4.3k Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 9 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said: I don't think much will make me positive about him staying unless we started the season with a stunning run of form whilst playing great football. Even then, I don't think I'd trust it would last now. Hoping they can do something to win me back around, because though it might be hard to believe I don't actually like having a downer on things. 😂 I'm the same. I love being positive about the Boro and want to be excited but I can't fake it either. I can't help that I strongly believe he isn't the man for the job. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erimus74 5,259 5.4k Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 (edited) Reading whats coming out of the club & Carricks comments sadly I think its going to be, carry on lads😔 The review will come back that we've spoken in depth about the past season & how to improve in all matters that were raised, all parties know we have to be better & improve & come August, with all the new signings our updated plans, we'll go as one of the front runners next season, talk, talk, natter, natter Nothing will change, talk is cheap, next season i'll leave the Riverside frustrated with the old mistakes repeating themselves, including Carrictime subs still happening New managers come in & following their honeymoon period need something extra, for me Carrick just doesnt have it I can't honestly see us going from a slow, boring, weak both, physically & mentally, team to say, Leeds, Sheffield, Burnley, Sunderland, even Bristol, who were so strong at home Come August it'll be rare for me to be on a downer but I fear I will be with no changes at the top end UTMB Edited May 9 by Erimus74 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erimus74 5,259 5.4k Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 28 minutes ago, uncle_rico said: Unfortunately I think it’s pretty clear that he’s staying. The gazette have been pushing excuses all week, no doubt drip fed from the club. I'm not happy with that, but if the whole backroom changes then I’ll be a little bit more positive than I have been for the last 3 months. Totally agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsoncgp 10,039 19.9k Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 37 minutes ago, Donnyboro said: Isn’t that Kieran Scott’s job to do now? Probably. Just so Gibson can overrule him when it matters. We are an absolute shambles. I fear that Gibson pulling Carrick through this is gonna be the final straw for Scott and I wouldn't blame him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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