Carrick, Woodgate et al have gone!

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2 minutes ago, macapes said:

Away man, that's history now.  Since relegation it's been a progression of middling Championship contenders, other than Karanka.

But they were Gibson's appointments.  You have to at least include them. Karanka, who you were talking about, was backed in a way that a lot of our managers weren't.  So was him being foreign really that important or was it Gibson going for it that mattered in the end? 

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Edwards feels like a very lazy appointment. Let's just get the guy we nearly got a couple of years back. Who cares about the double relegation...

Not inspiring at all and we don't have the players for him. 

Would rather just keep Carrick tbh, at least we can have zero expectations of promotion and can enjoy the banter of losing 3 goal leads.

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2 minutes ago, Tom said:

It's not really though. Scott worked with Edwards at Wolves for a bit years ago yeah, but it's hardly like they're best mates. And he has no history at all with Middlesbrough.

He also worked with Chris Jones at palace 

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I think Hutchison info is right again tbh. 

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1 minute ago, AllBoro10 said:

2 promotions on his CV too. He's far from perfect we know that but I don't think he would fair too badly here. All i am saying if he is the man let's give him a fair crack and a warm welcome.

I just hope fans see Gibson and Scott dont want promotion.

I certainly won't be going to games next season if Edwards is given the job and not that I won't back Edwards and support but purely because I won't use my hard earned money to give to Gibson and Scott who are making us fans look even more like mugs and stealing our money.

Maybe, people will think that's dramatic and people will say  your not a true fan which is completely rubbish, but we may aswell have kept carrick as its clear and obvious that the players respected him and we had to pull to get players because of him.

 

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Will genuinely be so gutted if it ends up being Edwards. Just the notion of appointing a manager who was deemed not good enough for a team that went down is ridiculous and screams no ambition. What is supposed to make him any better than Carrick? Honestly if this is the best they can come up with just go and have a punt on some random foreign manager. 

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2 minutes ago, Changing Times said:

McClaren wasn't, I mean relative to the rest of the Premier League.  Robson you could argue was to an extent but the first promotion was pretty much the team from the previous season with Pearson, Cox, Miller, Blackmore, and obviously Robson himself added to it.  Midtable to the title.  And if we're doing that then Karanka was backed heavily.  It's worth remembering that we will be spending money this summer as well.

The only money we'll be spending is the money generated from the sale of Rogers, Lath and presumably Hackney and maybe RVB. That's the whole spine of the team gone in 4 transfer windows. You can spend all you like after that, but first you're having to replace those players with equally good alternatives. Good luck doing that and then spending more on top.

Karanka, Robson and Maclaren never had that problem. We weren't a selling club back then, we are now. 

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Was there a significant difference from Luton when they went up to when they did so badly team wise? Did Edwards lose key players which hampered performances? 

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1 minute ago, AllBoro10 said:

I think Hutchison info is right again tbh. 

Hmm I’m unsure atm gazette and echo seemed sure today we are still seeing who are interested yet, let alone make a list, I think Bailey for sure is jumping the gun based on betting odds 

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1 minute ago, diggerlad07 said:

I just hope fans see Gibson and Scott dont want promotion.

I certainly won't be going to games next season if Edwards is given the job and not that I won't back Edwards and support but purely because I won't use my hard earned money to give to Gibson and Scott who are making us fans look even more like mugs and stealing our money.

Maybe, people will think that's dramatic and people will say  your not a true fan which is completely rubbish, but we may aswell have kept carrick as its clear and obvious that the players respected him and we had to pull to get players because of him.

 

Agree to disagree. I'm glad Carrick has gone. Whether Edwards is the right man well that's a big if but let's let him get through the door first if it's true.

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7 minutes ago, Brunners said:

he fell into that Forest Green promotion tbh, they almost *** fumbled the hell out of that.

They won the title.

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Carlton. Morris incoming 😞

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1 minute ago, diggerlad07 said:

I just hope fans see Gibson and Scott dont want promotion.

I certainly won't be going to games next season if Edwards is given the job and not that I won't back Edwards and support but purely because I won't use my hard earned money to give to Gibson and Scott who are making us fans look even more like mugs and stealing our money.

Maybe, people will think that's dramatic and people will say  your not a true fan which is completely rubbish, but we may aswell have kept carrick as its clear and obvious that the players respected him and we had to pull to get players because of him.

 

I support the club irrespective of the manager. I didn't miss a match under Strachan or Pulis, god knows I wish I had. 

But I can't help but feel there's been a falling out behind the scences and we're now trying to fill a hole that didn't need to be filled. If you're going to sack anyone, you have to make sure you know you can fill the position with a better alternative. And literally none of the names so far is better than Carrick. 

Unless of course we end up with Dyche. 

I wonder how many who were calling for Carricks head would be happy with Dyche at the helm. Be xareful what you wish for ...

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6 minutes ago, diggerlad07 said:

I just hope fans see Gibson and Scott dont want promotion.

I certainly won't be going to games next season if Edwards is given the job and not that I won't back Edwards and support but purely because I won't use my hard earned money to give to Gibson and Scott who are making us fans look even more like mugs and stealing our money.

Maybe, people will think that's dramatic and people will say  your not a true fan which is completely rubbish, but we may aswell have kept carrick as its clear and obvious that the players respected him and we had to pull to get players because of him.

 

Alright now I'm fully convinced you've lost your marbles entirely

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2 minutes ago, Pongoe said:

The only money we'll be spending is the money generated from the sale of Rogers, Lath and presumably Hackney and maybe RVB. That's the whole spine of the team gone in 4 transfer windows. You can spend all you like after that, but first you're having to replace those players with equally good alternatives. Good luck doing that and then spending more on top.

Karanka, Robson and Maclaren never had that problem. We weren't a selling club back then, we are now. 

Yeah because the financial situation of this club, and football in general, has completely changed since then.  Of course the money we'll be spending is whatever we've generated, and that's how it should be.  Lath going, and Hackney potentially going, will generate about £40m between them.  We should be able to make good additions to the squad for less than £40m.  If we can't then we've got bigger problems than who our Head Coach is.   Rogers was never the spine of the side however, maybe the spine of the bench.