Simply Red 456 894 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 22 minutes ago, Simply Red said: He is very good on both wings . And - Ex Everton and Southampton youth and current England u21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swifty 324 361 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 minute ago, Simply Red said: And - Ex Everton and Southampton youth and current England u21 He’s being linked with PNE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Red 456 894 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 minute ago, Swifty said: He’s being linked with PNE. I would hope we would beat them to him . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swifty 324 361 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Simply Red said: I would hope we would beat them to him . We need to aim higher I think and avoid league one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Red 456 894 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 33 minutes ago, Swifty said: We need to aim higher I think and avoid league one. Higher than a 20 year old current England u21 on a free transfer ? Good luck there then swiftly ! I would like Josh Key from Swansea as an alternative 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humpty 4,882 10.4k Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 On 5/15/2025 at 5:31 PM, Changing Times said: Why? Like what amount of influence do people think he's had on our season? First it's Woody that's the issue, now it's the younger Carrick? I can understand fans talking nonsense because let's face it we all do and most of us don't know anything that's going on within the club but I'd hope to God that the senior people at the club are putting more thought into it all than that. I mean, they have to be, right? Nonsense? What makes your uninformed opinion more relevant than mine? Do you still think coaches assistant managers have no influence on our performance? If so why do they exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Barnes 679 1.2k Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 57 minutes ago, Simply Red said: Higher than a 20 year old current England u21 on a free transfer ? Good luck there then swiftly ! I would like Josh Key from Swansea as an alternative Josh Key' from my Notebook 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Barnes 679 1.2k Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 4 hours ago, Bruce said: First thirty minutes away we battered them but didn't score. After that Coventry got hold of the game and we never laid a finger on them. We did a good job on Gyokeres at their place - McNair was arguably our man of the match in that game but at the Riverside he ran us ragged. He didn't score but he created so much threat that we spent the game on the back foot. As is Carrick's want, he didn't seem to try to adapt while you could see Robins deliberately get his team further up the pitch in the first half at their place and once they had gained confidence you could see us just start to wilt in the way we've come to recognise in the two seasons since then. Bruce you know your stuff 👍💪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changing Times 15,603 22.7k Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 47 minutes ago, Humpty said: Nonsense? What makes your uninformed opinion more relevant than mine? Do you still think coaches assistant managers have no influence on our performance? If so why do they exist? Yeah nonsense. If the outcome of this in depth review is that Graeme Carrick gets moved to the academy, and that's it, then it's nonsense. If you meant that this was just one thing that should happen among a number of other things then fair enough but that was the only thing that you said. Of course I don't believe coaches and assistant managers have no influence on our performance. However, I do believe that they have less influence on our performance than the main decision maker. The younger Carrick has been here for one season. We had the same issues beforehand when he wasn't here so is it logical to conclude that he is the problem? No. If you remember back when his hiring was announced, the two of us has the same thoughts about it, namely that it was odd because his background is with younger players so that's surely where his expertise lies. So I have no reason to be defending the bloke, I just don't see any sense at all in trying to place the blame on his hiring when he isn't the one making the decisions. He didn't sign the crap that we've signed (with a handful of decent players among them), and he isn't the one devising strategy/tactics, and doing whatever it is they do or don't do during a match. It might be a nice convenient outcome for Gibson to lay the blame on people other than Scott and Carrick because those two are absolutely down to him but it's nonsense to me, and I'd really hope that the result of the review has a bit more about it than just shifting Carrick's brother to a new role. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Barnes 679 1.2k Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 6 minutes ago, Changing Times said: Yeah nonsense. If the outcome of this in depth review is that Graeme Carrick gets moved to the academy, and that's it, then it's nonsense. If you meant that this was just one thing that should happen among a number of other things then fair enough but that was the only thing that you said. Of course I don't believe coaches and assistant managers have no influence on our performance. However, I do believe that they have less influence on our performance than the main decision maker. The younger Carrick has been here for one season. We had the same issues beforehand when he wasn't here so is it logical to conclude that he is the problem? No. If you remember back when his hiring was announced, the two of us has the same thoughts about it, namely that it was odd because his background is with younger players so that's surely where his expertise lies. So I have no reason to be defending the bloke, I just don't see any sense at all in trying to place the blame on his hiring when he isn't the one making the decisions. He didn't sign the crap that we've signed (with a handful of decent players among them), and he isn't the one devising strategy/tactics, and doing whatever it is they do or don't do during a match. It might be a nice convenient outcome for Gibson to lay the blame on people other than Scott and Carrick because those two are absolutely down to him but it's nonsense to me, and I'd really hope that the result of the review has a bit more about it than just shifting Carrick's brother to a new role. I think that's called scapegoating 👍 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changing Times 15,603 22.7k Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Just now, Nobby Barnes said: I think that's called scapegoating 👍 That's how I would look at that mate. No issue at all with a coach who has spent his entire coaching career working in youth development being moved to that role with us, I mean that makes sense to me. But nobody can seriously believe that the disappointment of this past season is solely down to Graeme Carrick? And I'll say it again, the other coaches here are here because the club wanted them not Carrick. Blaming Graeme would really just be a way of blaming Michael without having to sack him, and it's pathetic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Barnes 679 1.2k Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 15 minutes ago, Changing Times said: That's how I would look at that mate. No issue at all with a coach who has spent his entire coaching career working in youth development being moved to that role with us, I mean that makes sense to me. But nobody can seriously believe that the disappointment of this past season is solely down to Graeme Carrick? And I'll say it again, the other coaches here are here because the club wanted them not Carrick. Blaming Graeme would really just be a way of blaming Michael without having to sack him, and it's pathetic. I agree it's like blaming Neil Warnock for Sheffield Wednesday releasing Marvin Johnson 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boro 86 800 2.7k Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 15 minutes ago, Changing Times said: That's how I would look at that mate. No issue at all with a coach who has spent his entire coaching career working in youth development being moved to that role with us, I mean that makes sense to me. But nobody can seriously believe that the disappointment of this past season is solely down to Graeme Carrick? And I'll say it again, the other coaches here are here because the club wanted them not Carrick. Blaming Graeme would really just be a way of blaming Michael without having to sack him, and it's pathetic. Agree especially as the man responsible for recruitment seems to be getting a new contract. My personal opinion all along is that this will be chalked down to “lessons learned “ and a push to bring quality championship ready players in over the summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changing Times 15,603 22.7k Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 minute ago, Nobby Barnes said: I agree it's like blaming Neil Warnock for Sheffield Wednesday releasing Marvin Johnson 👍 Has he been released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby Barnes 679 1.2k Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 6 minutes ago, Changing Times said: Has he been released? Yes 🥺 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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