The New Manager of MFC - Introducing Kim Hellberg

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2 minutes ago, Blanco said:

You couldn’t possibly have thought he was British 🤷‍♂️If you did I apologise. 
 

The fact that there was no possibility of an Irish player from Cork could ever be deemed to be British is on you. Unless you’re about 120 years old 🙄

Maybe he'd just like to be British? 🤷‍♂️

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1 minute ago, Changing Times said:

Maybe he'd just like to be British? 🤷‍♂️

🤦‍♂️ Literally nobody would CT 🤪

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2 minutes ago, Changing Times said:

Maybe he'd just like to be British? 🤷‍♂️

You can't say that sort of thing these days...

 

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6 minutes ago, Nobby Barnes said:

You can't say that sort of thing these days...

 

Being British isn't that bad 🤷‍♂️

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6 minutes ago, Changing Times said:

Being British isn't that bad 🤷‍♂️

When I become moderator I will be changing your username to 'Cancelled Times' 👍

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Just now, Nobby Barnes said:

When I become moderator I will be changing your username to 'Cancelled Times' 👍

Banned for being British, well there you go.  I wonder what Nige would make of this? 🤔

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8 minutes ago, Changing Times said:

Banned for being British, well there you go.  I wonder what Nige would make of this? 🤔

No politics please 🤣

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39 minutes ago, Changing Times said:

Maybe he'd just like to be British? 🤷‍♂️

He is from The British Isles...

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2 hours ago, Tarmo Kink Army said:

Yeah I wouldn’t be shocked if we still have a few names we want to hear out 

Could be that interviews were sorted but some wildcard has thrown their hat into the ring last minute and we are willing to hear them out

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2 hours ago, Changing Times said:

Sorry, now you're losing me even more.  Wicky, Gerrard or whoever else gets appointed will be an outside eye.  Same goes for the coaches they'd want to bring in.  Why would it be invaluable to have another one with Viveash?  I can understand the idea of wanting to keep him cos he's been here a short time already, and that provides some small amount of continuity, but not for him being an outside eye, I don't really get that at all mate?  Do you mean outside to the newly appointed staff? 

I think people have a crazy high opinion of the fella, and that's leading to them acting like he's irreplaceable.  The club want to keep him, and that's a good sign I guess, but then the club (probably more so Gibson) have wanted to keep various people here over the years, and it hasn't tended to be all that useful.  If whoever the new manager is really wants him around then great otherwise it'll just be a voice that has very little influence.

To bring it back to basics, Viveash has been there, done that, got the t-shirt in terms of achievement within the level we find ourselves.

Coventry's achievements weren't down to Robins alone. Living in the West Midlands, Viveash is often cited as an enormous element of their success among fans.

A recipe is only as strong as it's ingredients and how they combine together. Arguably, our strongest ingredient at present? Adi. Whose key experience is outside of ourselves. If we can link that with the experience of someone like Wicky? A talent, but with no experience of the league, and they symbiotically align? Then adaptability becomes a huge benefit.

To my mind, Adi is key to both our continuity and growth. 

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11 minutes ago, Snowblind said:

To bring it back to basics, Viveash has been there, done that, got the t-shirt in terms of achievement within the level we find ourselves.

Coventry's achievements weren't down to Robins alone. Living in the West Midlands, Viveash is often cited as an enormous element of their success among fans.

A recipe is only as strong as it's ingredients and how they combine together. Arguably, our strongest ingredient at present? Adi. Whose key experience is outside of ourselves. If we can link that with the experience of someone like Wicky? A talent, but with no experience of the league, and they symbiotically align? Then adaptability becomes a huge benefit.

To my mind, Adi is key to both our continuity and growth. 

I feel like I'm hammering the fella, which isn't my intention, but this is pretty much the over the top rhetoric that I'm talking about.  What you've said there kinda sounds like flannel to be blunt.  Like business speak or corporate jargon.  Viveash hasn't been there done that etc.  His time coaching at this level has lead to zero promotions.  He was part of Coventry gaining promotion from the levels below this, which should have some value I agree, but he has no achievements to speak of at this level.  I'm sure that Viveash played his part at Coventry but Robins seems to be doing alright at Stoke without him.  I think Coventry struggling a bit after Viveash left possibly lead people to conclude that it was Viveash who was responsible for the good stuff but Robins doing ok without him perhaps suggests it wasn't as simple as that.  We've seen it here with assistants either getting credit or criticism for stuff that probably they had little to do with - Higgy with Karanka getting credit, Woody with Carrick getting criticism.  We've even had a bit of it with Edwards and Viveash.  Hopefully if he does stay he will be a respected voice/opinion rather than just someone who is there because somebody else wants him to be.

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2 minutes ago, Changing Times said:

I feel like I'm hammering the fella, which isn't my intention, but this is pretty much the over the top rhetoric that I'm talking about.  What you've said there kinda sounds like flannel to be blunt.  Like business speak or corporate jargon.  Viveash hasn't been there done that etc.  His time coaching at this level has lead to zero promotions.  He was part of Coventry gaining promotion from the levels below this, which should have some value I agree, but he has no achievements to speak of at this level.  I'm sure that Viveash played his part at Coventry but Robins seems to be doing alright at Stoke without him.  I think Coventry struggling a bit after Viveash left possibly lead people to conclude that it was Viveash who was responsible for the good stuff but Robins doing ok without him perhaps suggests it wasn't as simple as that.  We've seen it here with assistants either getting credit or criticism for stuff that probably they had little to do with - Higgy with Karanka getting credit, Woody with Carrick getting criticism.  We've even had a bit of it with Edwards and Viveash.  Hopefully if he does stay he will be a respected voice/opinion rather than just someone who is there because somebody else wants him to be.

Just to reply to the last point, our last club/scott appointed coach went on to be poached by Bayern Munich, so I’d assume these type of coaches are more than just training ground ornaments.

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9 minutes ago, LinoJo3 said:

Just to reply to the last point, our last club/scott appointed coach went on to be poached by Bayern Munich, so I’d assume these type of coaches are more than just training ground ornaments.

Was Danks club appointed?  I thought he was Carrick's suggestion?  He must be the only one that actually worked out ok, albeit he wasn't here that long. In any case I'm not saying that Viveash is a training ground ornament more that he could end up as one if the new guy isn't that arsed about him being here. Managers tend to have people they want to work with, and when you try to impose someone else on them it may not work because the manager will tend to put less value on their opinions.

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7 minutes ago, Changing Times said:

Was Danks club appointed?  I thought he was Carrick's suggestion?  He must be the only one that actually worked out ok, albeit he wasn't here that long. In any case I'm not saying that Viveash is a training ground ornament more that he could end up as one if the new guy isn't that arsed about him being here. Managers tend to have people they want to work with, and when you try to impose someone else on them it may not work because the manager will tend to put less value on their opinions.

I agree with that but it’s something we’ll only know once they start working together, if we find out at all. I seen it mentioned that Carrick didn’t really utilise Danks much and that’s a reason he left, but then he was also ‘given’ woodgate who it’s said he may have quit the job to stay loyal to so who knows.

If wicky actually is the guy, his assistants didn’t get visas last time so he may have no choice anyway. Equally if Viveash is as good as his reputation suggests you’d hope he would be fully utilised

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7 hours ago, QueudrueThinkYouAre said:

Do we know who Wicky’s usual/previous assistants are and if they are out of work?

took a while in the summer to announce the manager as sorting contracts for multiple people.

my guess is if interviews are finished, then take the weekend to finalise thoughts, official internal decision Monday and then few days to get contracts sorted. New manager announced before the weekend but probably watching in the stands while Adi takes the match.

He didn’t join West Brom before due to his assistants failing to get work permits, I would think if it is his he’s agreed to work with Adi