DurhamRed 2,043 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Sunderland is a graveyard brave move for Johnson backwards step I think for him. Link to post Share on other sites
DanFromDownSouth 1,706 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Johnson confirmed as Sunderland manager. Link to post Share on other sites
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Neverbefore 10,695 Posted December 5, 2020 Author Share Posted December 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, BoroJake said: Whether or not you think taking a knee is making a difference or not, to boo it is a very clear symbol of your own hatred and racism. Simple, no other explanation for it. Pathetic 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Uwe 3,543 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 47 minutes ago, Neverbefore said: Whether or not you think taking a knee is making a difference or not, to boo it is a very clear symbol of your own hatred and racism. Simple, no other explanation for it. Pathetic Not necessary. For instance I agree with the message but not the BLM movement as whole. (Yes I know taking the knee has tried to distance itself from BLM but not everyone understand that) However Saying that with my experience of Millwall they are more likely to fall into the mouth breathing. Knuckle dragging racists than any sort of political message 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,220 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 I'm bored witless with it all personally. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,695 Posted December 5, 2020 Author Share Posted December 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Changing Times said: I'm bored witless with it all personally. I couldn't care less if you're bored of it or not, booing sends a very different message though. Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,220 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, Neverbefore said: I couldn't care less if you're bored of it or not, booing sends a very different message though. You should care. I'm a very important person you know 🧐 Link to post Share on other sites
smogsterking the Inspirati 2,453 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 This rings a bell from his time here https://mobile.twitter.com/corimilton/status/1335265498540478464?s=24 Link to post Share on other sites
Dan1234 1,048 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Neverbefore said: Whether or not you think taking a knee is making a difference or not, to boo it is a very clear symbol of your own hatred and racism. Simple, no other explanation for it. Pathetic Dont agree with that at all. I would wager 99.9% of people booing are doing so because they dont agree with the black lives matter movement which as Uwe said rightly or wrongly its associated with. If you want to see it as hatred and racism then fair enough, I prefer to see it as showing discontent at football supporting a violent and racist organisation. Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,695 Posted December 5, 2020 Author Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Dan1234 said: Dont agree with that at all. I would wager 99.9% of people booing are doing so because they dont agree with the black lives matter movement which as Uwe said rightly or wrongly its associated with. If you want to see it as hatred and racism then fair enough, I prefer to see it as showing discontent at football supporting a violent and racist organisation. Do you think all those players are supporting any organisation or do you think they're symbolising standing up against racism? Link to post Share on other sites
Dan1234 1,048 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Neverbefore said: Do you think all those players are supporting any organisation or do you think they're symbolising standing up against racism? The players? I think they're probably doing what they are told. Doubt many of them give much of a thought either way. If it was just about standing up to racism there would be no issue and I doubt any booing of any sort. Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,695 Posted December 5, 2020 Author Share Posted December 5, 2020 Just now, Dan1234 said: The players? I think they're probably doing what they are told. Doubt many of them give much of a thought either way. If it was just about standing up to racism there would be no issue and I doubt any booing of any sort. But that is all its about. It's people who want to have an issue with it that are making it more than that. It's an excuse. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DanFromDownSouth 1,706 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) Whether you agree with the BLM organisation or not, surely everyone should be on board about the underlying message and the symbolism of taking the knee. Wasn't taking a knee started by NFL players anyway? BLM have incorporated it into their protest? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,695 Posted December 5, 2020 Author Share Posted December 5, 2020 Just now, DanFromDownSouth said: Whether you agree with the BLM organisation or not, surely everyone should be on board about the underlying message and the symbolism of taking the knee. Wasn't taking a knee started by NFL players anyway? Yep. Like I said, just an excuse. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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