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Another example of expected goals being a bit rubbish.

What I found funny is we had something like 0.4 expected goals on Saturday and Duncan Watmore actually missed an open net from 4 yards out. If that's not 1 expected goal, then the whole system is clearly ***.

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13 hours ago, Old Codger said:

Probably being a bit naive, but if it has a lower mortality rate than other strains would it not be preferable as the dominant strain than other nastier versions, although it doesn't prevent catching them, antibodies would probably help in some way although obviously not enough time has passed for much data to be accumulated  

Well mortality rate is relative. If you're more vulnerable generally, due to age, other medical conditions, you still want all the protection you can get.

I'm neither but will still be getting a booster shot ASAP.

 

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13 hours ago, Old Codger said:

Probably being a bit naive, but if it has a lower mortality rate than other strains would it not be preferable as the dominant strain than other nastier versions, although it doesn't prevent catching them, antibodies would probably help in some way although obviously not enough time has passed for much data to be accumulated  

It's already been discussed that if it's true that the symptoms are much milder although the infection rate is much higher it could be a shortcut to heard immunity. I'm not sure the experts know the full extend yet though. Infection rates are at an alltime high in Denmark though, so schools have closed until 5 january while people are working from home again. No alchohol sales after midnight and you have to use mouthpieces. No concerts over 50 standing people. So far untill 5 january.

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6 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said:

AFCON is getting cancelled because of Covid, which will be a huge relief to the teams in England with a large number of African stars like Liverpool.

I suppose it technically impacts us with Siliki too.

It's very weird looking this up at the moment. It looks like its just news reports of it trying to get cancelled? I don't know if you've seen anything more official and I've maybe missed it.

But then Sky have, at the same time, announced they're showing all the AFCON matches. 😄

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On the good news side of things, my Covid pass arrived this morning, so I am good to go, thanks to all those that provided advice..  shows that I have had both jabs, but even though issued twelve days after my booster, no mention of that, so presumably not as relevant for some reason.  Hopefully everything goes smoothly on Saturday    

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Bielsa saying nothing to be learned from a 7-0 defeat, not sure how I would feel about that if I was a Leeds fan, even if it was why did they only end up with one yellow card..  surely you put yourself about a bit rather than say "Please sir, can I have some more "

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1 hour ago, Borodane said:

It's already been discussed that if it's true that the symptoms are much milder although the infection rate is much higher it could be a shortcut to heard immunity.

As someone who works in palliative care research in a university medical school but is not an infectious disease specialist or virologist what you say is well meaning but not quite right.

Coronaviruses (i.e. the thing that causes Covid) are not something you can get herd immunity against. For example, many common colds are coronaviruses and no matter how many colds you catch, you can always catch more.  Same with flu which is caused by a whole range of different flu viruses.

As elimination seems impossible at this point (elimination of a virus is next to impossible apart from certain rare circumstances) the best endgame is that we build up enough defences to make getting infected less dangerous. That may be through vaccinations, natural immunity and acquired immunity from previous infections. 

At the moment we don't know if the Omicron variant is less dangerous by itself. We know it is more transmissible and that it can infect people who are double vaccinated but possibly not those who have a booster. Say for example that it is just as dangerous as Delta in those who lack immunity but it also manages to break through vaccinations but only causes in mild or asymptomatic disease in the vaccinated. What will happen is that it will infect a lot more people than delta but only send the same number to hospital. That will make it *look* like it is less dangerous. So what everyone is looking to see is whether hospitalisations among the unvaccinated start to increase alongside the number of infections and what the proportion of severe disease is among those. The best case scenario is that Omicron is actually less dangerous and outcompetes other variants in which case it means that with the treatments we have available it becomes manageable like flu.

Bear in mind though; most years flu puts the NHS under severe pressure and directly or indirectly leads to a lot of death and severe illness that badly weakens those prone to it. Even if Covid-19 ends up "only being as bad as flu" we will have twice the impact on the NHS for now and ever. The resources needed to manage this are significant as will be the annual death and illness burden on all of us.

What we will never have is a situation like Measles where the vaccination program and existence of a super majority of immunised people prevents everything apart from the occasional, very localised flare up. Herd immunity is not going to happen which means we're now looking at reducing the impact of the disease as far as possible.

To put it in a footie context; one of my colleagues - Devi Sridhar - has described the vaccination program and things like social distancing as a "defensive wall". In the early days, facing Covid-19 was like facing a penalty kick. Now it's like facing a direct free kick with a decent wall; it'll still score some goals. What we're all hoping is that Omicron is more like Tav taking a free kick than Beckham. (Sorry, Tav, if you're reading this...)

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27 minutes ago, Bruce said:

To put it in a footie context; one of my colleagues - Devi Sridhar - has described the vaccination program and things like social distancing as a "defensive wall". In the early days, facing Covid-19 was like facing a penalty kick. Now it's like facing a direct free kick with a decent wall; it'll still score some goals. What we're all hoping is that Omicron is more like Tav taking a free kick than Beckham. (Sorry, Tav, if you're reading this...)

I'm just imagining all the other viruses groaning as Omicron yet again fails to kill an unvaccinated elderly person. "Even I could have finished that" says one old virus to his grandson virus.

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1 hour ago, SouthernSmoggie said:

It's not confirmed as cancelled I don't think?

It's not, and officials from the CAF are apparently calling them "lies" from the press, so it might be going ahead as planned.

I hope it does, as it's a shame for them if it is cancelled.

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35 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said:

It's not, and officials from the CAF are apparently calling them "lies" from the press, so it might be going ahead as planned.

I hope it does, as it's a shame for them if it is cancelled.

If it were a competition with higher Sky TV viewing figures you can bet that there's no way it could be cancelled as there would be too much money at stake.

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