TeaCider24 12,402 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I think Birmingham are getting done again. BIRMINGHAM CITY AND THE EFL: The Club confirms that it has been charged with a breach of EFL Regulations in relation to a business plan imposed upon us in the 2018/19 season. The Club denies the charge and we await the outcome of ongoing disciplinary proceedings. We shall be making no further comment at this time. Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,952 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 What does that even mean. They had something imposed on them and broke those rules too? Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,402 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Brunners said: What does that even mean. They had something imposed on them and broke those rules too? They got a points deduction last season for breaking financial rules, presumably they were given parameters they had to stick to after that and have broken those too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,219 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said: They got a points deduction last season for breaking financial rules, presumably they were given parameters they had to stick to after that and have broken those too. Pretty much this. We should steam in there and get Juke back 💪 Link to post Share on other sites
DurhamRed 2,043 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 If they get 9 points again that'll put them bottom of the Championship 😱. Hopefully Sheffield Wednesday are hit soon along with Derby! Link to post Share on other sites
SmogDane 4,052 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 33 minutes ago, DurhamRed said: If they get 9 points again that'll put them bottom of the Championship 😱. Hopefully Sheffield Wednesday are hit soon along with Derby! Future news headlines!May 8th 202013 Championship clubs have had a 9 point deduction, which sees Boro skip into the top 6. Boro chairman Steve Gibson receives praise for his caretaking of FFP! 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Uwe 3,543 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 *** VAR starring again. We need a massive overhaul of the rules/laws or just get rid of the *** thing Link to post Share on other sites
DurhamRed 2,043 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Uwe said: *** VAR starring again. We need a massive overhaul of the rules/laws or just get rid of the *** thing It better not rule a Boro goal out by the width of a hair at Tottenham like! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Uwe said: *** VAR starring again. We need a massive overhaul of the rules/laws or just get rid of the *** thing Once again I'm forced to ask if the problem here is VAR or the rule it enforced. In this one, I'm even more convinced it was the rule it enforced that's actually the problem. How that can be given for handball when you're looking at it in slow motion and can see there's no intent is absolutely mad. Applying the laws, it is handball though. Pathetic nonetheless. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Borodane 6,246 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 8 hours ago, wilsoncgp said: Once again I'm forced to ask if the problem here is VAR or the rule it enforced. In this one, I'm even more convinced it was the rule it enforced that's actually the problem. How that can be given for handball when you're looking at it in slow motion and can see there's no intent is absolutely mad. Applying the laws, it is handball though. Pathetic nonetheless. Nothing wrong with VAR. it’s the rules. If the rules say you can be offside by a mm VAR is going to flag that up when it happens. Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,695 Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 I dont agree with the argument that the rules are the problem and that var isnt the issue. For 2 main reasons - 1) var is the reason that these rules are able to be enforced with such forensic precision. Taking the offside and handball examples - because var exists there is a requirement that everything has to be black and white and that middle ground/contextual decision making disappears in order to keep it consistent across the board. If the referee as the power to say one is a handball and the other isnt, you'll end up with more complaints than ever. There will be countless comparisons being made from one situation to the next and it would be even worse. Any rule changes under var will have to have a similar black and white factual right and wrong - which is a completely wrong way to approach the game in my opinion. 2) the system of only reviewing major decisions is inherently unfair. If a team is awarded a throw in incorrectly and the move ends with a goal 30 seconds later the goal stands. 2 mins later and the other team has a decision go the other way because the decision is within what they consider to be the "phase of play". How is this a fair way of referring a game? My final point would be this - now that weve witnessed var in action, has it improved the game? Is it more enjoyable to watch? Are the delays acceptable? Has it reduced controversy in the game? I'd say the answer is no to all of those, and really thats the bottom line. I've been anti var since the start and remain so. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BillyWoofs_shinpad 1,884 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I totally agree with you, VAR is damaging the game, the outcome of football matches is now being determined by a teenager with a computer in an office. For offsides, the replay is frozen at the point at which the operator considers the ball left the foot of the player passing the ball, there is no way that this is frame accurate, they effectively draw arbitrary lines and use them as proof. So glad we don’t have it in the champo. Link to post Share on other sites
Uwe 3,543 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 27 minutes ago, Neverbefore said: I dont agree with the argument that the rules are the problem and that var isnt the issue. For 2 main reasons - 1) var is the reason that these rules are able to be enforced with such forensic precision. Taking the offside and handball examples - because var exists there is a requirement that everything has to be black and white and that middle ground/contextual decision making disappears in order to keep it consistent across the board. If the referee as the power to say one is a handball and the other isnt, you'll end up with more complaints than ever. There will be countless comparisons being made from one situation to the next and it would be even worse. Any rule changes under var will have to have a similar black and white factual right and wrong - which is a completely wrong way to approach the game in my opinion. 2) the system of only reviewing major decisions is inherently unfair. If a team is awarded a throw in incorrectly and the move ends with a goal 30 seconds later the goal stands. 2 mins later and the other team has a decision go the other way because the decision is within what they consider to be the "phase of play". How is this a fair way of referring a game? My final point would be this - now that weve witnessed var in action, has it improved the game? Is it more enjoyable to watch? Are the delays acceptable? Has it reduced controversy in the game? I'd say the answer is no to all of those, and really thats the bottom line. I've been anti var since the start and remain so. Agree 100% 👍 Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,695 Posted January 11, 2020 Author Share Posted January 11, 2020 And a perfect example right there. Incorrectly given throw in leads to a goal, not looked at. Var will never ever be consistent and fair. Link to post Share on other sites
Borodane 6,246 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Villa fans leaving after only 28 minutes🤣 Link to post Share on other sites
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