AnglianRed 6,320 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Brunners said: Derbys potential new owner everybody. Erik Alonso is apparently the president of WBD Sports Management. https://www.wbdsports.com/ For an agency that works with some of the world's top sports people I'd have thought they'd have more of an online presence... An article by The Star: https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/who-erik-alonso-new-face-comes-help-sheffield-wednesday-and-dejphon-chansiri-3081322 His family have been involved in football clubs since the 1990s. But apparently his involvement with Sheffield Wednesday didn't go all that well. Also had an offer to buy the Owls rejected by Chansiri. Link to post Share on other sites
Borodane 6,297 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 43 minutes ago, Brunners said: Derbys potential new owner everybody. God dammit this is some funny stuff. Getting caught in the lie 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites
DurhamRed 2,047 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) Link Derby released a statement saying how Gibsons bringing extra charges forward. Has delayed the verdict by 6 months this potential has kept Derby up as their points deduction is applied to next season not this 😔 Edited May 11, 2021 by DurhamRed 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,982 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 18 minutes ago, DurhamRed said: Link Derby released a statement saying how Gibsons bringing extra charges forward. Has delayed the verdict by 6 months this potential has kept Derby up as their points deduction is applied to next season not this 😔 Here's the relevant quote: Quote The reason the EFL’s appeal took so long to determine was because of three separate preliminary issues raised by Middlesbrough FC and then the EFL, each of which required hearings and decisions by the LAP, and each of which was dismissed with the Club being successful. Had Middlesbrough and the EFL not brought those preliminary issues the appeal could have been determined in 2020. Link to post Share on other sites
ScarBoro 856 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 16 minutes ago, Brunners said: Quote The reason the EFL’s appeal took so long to determine was because of three separate preliminary issues raised by Middlesbrough FC and then the EFL, each of which required hearings and decisions by the LAP, and each of which was dismissed with the Club being successful. Had Middlesbrough and the EFL not brought those preliminary issues the appeal could have been determined in 2020. : Surely to goodness they could have heard all the issues at one hearing? To be fair to Gibson, it sounds as though the FL agreed with him, otherwise they could have simply dismissed the issues without hearings. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,982 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Not the best day for Derby https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/may/11/richard-keogh-awarded-more-than-2m-in-breach-of-contract-case-against-derby They've now lost their appeal against their wrongful dismissal case of Keogh and have to pay him £2.3m lol. 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,339 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Brunners said: Derbys potential new owner everybody. I once got asked by the EFL to prove that I had the funds to buy a football club so I sent them copies of all of my loan applications. Bit of football finance satire for you. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,937 Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 The gift that keeps on giving are derby county 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,339 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Brunners said: Derbys potential new owner everybody. Is this how people prove their wealth now by taking pictures from inside a house? Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,339 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, Brunners said: Not the best day for Derby https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/may/11/richard-keogh-awarded-more-than-2m-in-breach-of-contract-case-against-derby They've now lost their appeal against their wrongful dismissal case of Keogh and have to pay him £2.3m lol. Delighted about this 🙌 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MMC 1,000 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Don't be surprised to hear about Steve Gibson getting admitted to a&e. With everything kicking off with Derby County the poor bloke's requiring medical treatment for a 48 hour erection. #pray4steve 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ScarBoro 856 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 I’ve now found the detail of Boro’s involvement in the appeal process that has delayed it all. It does look as though there was only one hearing. It seems Gibson was intent on suing Derby when they got into playoffs instead of Boro, on grounds that they fiddled their way in by breaching league rules. So, when the disciplinary commission dismissed the case against Derby over the ground revaluation, Boro sought to appeal that decision and also join in the appeal against the accounting rules that the EFL was instigating. This meant there had to be an Arbitration Panel sitting to decide this before the League appeal could go ahead. The AP decided that Boro had no standing to either start an appeal re the ground value, or join in the League appeal against the accounting valuation issue. This meant that only the league could issue an appeal, which they did in respect of the accounting issue. However, the appeal by Boro to the Arbitration Panel above was made in early September and decided on 26th October, so it hasn’t really caused much of a delay in the overall case. not sure whether Boro will try to commence a case against Derby directly now that the League have ruled they did breach regulations. Could get very messy if they do. Given the lack of money at Derby, it may well be futile for Gibson to try to sue. It’s one thing getting compensation, but if it forced Derby into administration, I think Gibson could be making a lot of ill will against himself. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,339 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, ScarBoro said: I’ve now found the detail of Boro’s involvement in the appeal process that has delayed it all. It does look as though there was only one hearing. It seems Gibson was intent on suing Derby when they got into playoffs instead of Boro, on grounds that they fiddled their way in by breaching league rules. So, when the disciplinary commission dismissed the case against Derby over the ground revaluation, Boro sought to appeal that decision and also join in the appeal against the accounting rules that the EFL was instigating. This meant there had to be an Arbitration Panel sitting to decide this before the League appeal could go ahead. The AP decided that Boro had no standing to either start an appeal re the ground value, or join in the League appeal against the accounting valuation issue. This meant that only the league could issue an appeal, which they did in respect of the accounting issue. However, the appeal by Boro to the Arbitration Panel above was made in early September and decided on 26th October, so it hasn’t really caused much of a delay in the overall case. not sure whether Boro will try to commence a case against Derby directly now that the League have ruled they did breach regulations. Could get very messy if they do. Given the lack of money at Derby, it may well be futile for Gibson to try to sue. It’s one thing getting compensation, but if it forced Derby into administration, I think Gibson could be making a lot of ill will against himself. How could we appeal the failed decision or join the second appeal? It's the EFL's rules and the EFL are the governing body. We could have tried to sue Derby, I guess in a similar way that Sheff Utd did to West Ham, but I don't see how we could appeal a judgement that we weren't involved in or appeal against another judgement that doesn't really have anything to do with us? Not surprised the panel turned both down. The delays though are nonsense either way. I just think there is no time limit so they take as much time as they want to essentially. Link to post Share on other sites
Blanco 4,916 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Changing Times said: How could we appeal the failed decision or join the second appeal? It's the EFL's rules and the EFL are the governing body. We could have tried to sue Derby, I guess in a similar way that Sheff Utd did to West Ham, but I don't see how we could appeal a judgement that we weren't involved in or appeal against another judgement that doesn't really have anything to do with us? Not surprised the panel turned both down. The delays though are nonsense either way. I just think there is no time limit so they take as much time as they want to essentially. Surely it would be the EFL that Boro would be suing? The issue being that they allowed Derby to cook the books and didn’t act until Gibson threatened to sue? Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,339 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 18 minutes ago, Blanco said: Surely it would be the EFL that Boro would be suing? The issue being that they allowed Derby to cook the books and didn’t act until Gibson threatened to sue? I think it's more difficult to sue the league than the individual club but I'm not entirely sure about that. Link to post Share on other sites
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