BoroJake 2,345 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 0 subs again. I know it isn’t a popular opinion, but I really don’t rate southgate, I really think he would get found out at club level. Think he’s been carried by how good the individual players are 2 Link to post Share on other sites
AnglianRed 6,320 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, BoroJake said: They have been pushing for a second that’s why the have kept on getting countered. You can’t call 1 minute of not being able to win the ball camping in their own half Dunno what game you were watching, but what I saw was a team trying to see the game out in stoppage time. Poland had the upper hand and were pressuring us in the closing minutes. We didn't sit back as soon as we took the lead, but we definitely got more defensive minded as the clock ticked down. Edited September 8, 2021 by AnglianRed 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AnglianRed 6,320 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, sanddancer said: Seen it coming… I did ask who was the smarter, who wanted it more.. GS caught sleeping… A change in our forward line could have prevented it.. Again trying to see a game out, instead of making some changes, bringing fresh legs on and impetus into our game. Link to post Share on other sites
smogsterking the Inspirati 2,490 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 The one worry i have with this England team is we generally are solid and efficient in closing out 1-0 wins when we have the players capable of scoring more. Like today and against Italy sitting back has cost us wins. Still i think come the world Cup i think we stand a very good chance of going far assuming the weather conditions don't play a major impact. Link to post Share on other sites
AnglianRed 6,320 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 On balance a draw is probably a fair result and doesn't really hurt our qualification progress, but its still a bit of a kick in the teeth. Again we let the opposition get on top of us (this time in the closing minutes) got defensively sloppy and were punished for it. Why Southgate didn't make some subs I wish I knew. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BoroJake 2,345 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, AnglianRed said: Dunno what game you were watching, but what I saw was a team trying to see the game out in stoppage time. Poland had the upper hand and were pressuring us in the closing minutes. Sure we didn't sit back as soon as we took the lead, but we definitely got more defensive minded as the clock ticked down. Pretty much every team in the world gets more defensive minded in the 90th minute when 1-0 up. We were up their end of in the pitch a minute or two earlier doing back heels. I think we definitely must have been watching a different game😂 Link to post Share on other sites
sanddancer 1,967 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Just now, BoroJake said: 0 subs again. I know it isn’t a popular opinion, but I really don’t rate southgate, I really think he would get found out at club level. Think he’s been carried by how good the individual players are Its GS that’s holding back a fantastic group of players..they are making him look far better then he is—- let’s face it GS would not get a role at any Premier club… One thing to point out, Poland score off a header something we seem reluctant to do other then set pieces Poland made changes to influence the game, GS sat and hoped to see the game out… At least we didn’t loose though… Link to post Share on other sites
Dynamo Kev 1,557 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, BoroJake said: Pretty much every team in the world gets more defensive minded in the 90th minute when 1-0 up. We were up their end of in the pitch a minute or two earlier doing back heels. I think we definitely must have been watching a different game😂 i think half our team wanted to push for a second and the other half wanted to camp out on our 18 yard line 2 Link to post Share on other sites
AnglianRed 6,320 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, BoroJake said: 0 subs again. I know it isn’t a popular opinion, but I really don’t rate southgate, I really think he would get found out at club level. Think he’s been carried by how good the individual players are I worry that he seems to make the same mistakes over and over. Or at least that whatever he's coaching the players to do is resulting in similar problems occurring. A good manager should learn from previous matches. Agree the lack of subs (again) is perplexing and annoying. Can't believe he doesn't trust the squad players to do the business for 15-20 minutes against Poland. Link to post Share on other sites
AnglianRed 6,320 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, BoroJake said: Pretty much every team in the world gets more defensive minded in the 90th minute when 1-0 up. We were up their end of in the pitch a minute or two earlier doing back heels. I think we definitely must have been watching a different game😂 Well I think England are doing a pretty good job of proving its not a sound tactic unless you have a rock solid defence. 😉 Yes our defence coped pretty well, but they had to work pretty hard this game and were going to be a bit knackered by the 90th minute. Not a great time to heap pressure on them. With 4 minutes of stoppage time to negotiate, I'd have rather seen us playing keep-ball up their end of the field. But I guess the lack of subs put paid to that... 2 Link to post Share on other sites
sanddancer 1,967 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, smogsterking the Inspirati said: The one worry i have with this England team is we generally are solid and efficient in closing out 1-0 wins when we have the players capable of scoring more. Like today and against Italy sitting back has cost us wins. Still i think come the world Cup i think we stand a very good chance of going far assuming the weather conditions don't play a major impact. Apart from the qualifications it’s knock out and we don’t seen to be able to grasp only the winner progresses. The issue we have always had, we go out not to loose. Take today what did we learn about the team we didn’t know, what did we learn about the bench, nothing and that is the point I am making about GS.. Fresh legs darting about with quick passing would have kept Poland penned in.. Link to post Share on other sites
Old Codger 3,063 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, sanddancer said: Did you know the Polish last name donates where they come from with SKY meaning FROM? Almost all Female name end with an A. OK useless but interesting BOROSKI would that make you the South Bankski.. now we know who is responsible for all the errr street art there 🙂 1 Link to post Share on other sites
sanddancer 1,967 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, Dynamo Kev said: i think half our team wanted to push for a second and the other half wanted to camp out on our 18 yard line I think that pretty much sums it up .. Link to post Share on other sites
DevKWat 2,370 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Said it for years we will never win anything under Southgate. Our achievements so far are down to individual quality not him. Against Croatia and Italy he has made the same mistakes. We score, sit back, lose the midfield and the momentum totally swings for the opposition. He’ll never learn it’s very clear to see, bang average manager who wouldn’t get a job in the premier league. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BoroJake 2,345 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 That Italy game was absolutely there for the taking in the first half. They were an absolute mess the first 10-20 minutes 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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