Non-Boro Football

[Rob 6,084 9.3k]

18 hours ago, TeaCider24 said:

That is the most tinpot thing I've seen.

Luton are now charging their fans to listen to press conferences. 

weird innit, they not shown publicly anywhere for free? 

they do offer more for the money mind, if you wanted to pay month by month our then commentary package alone is more to listen to maddo digitally at £2.50 per match. although we seem to offer the other content all for free from the site.

[Borodane 7,456 27.1k]

18 hours ago, TeaCider24 said:

That is the most tinpot thing I've seen.

Luton are now charging their fans to listen to press conferences. 

As tinpot as charging match by match for audio commentary?

[TeaCider24 16,744 21.9k]

5 minutes ago, Borodane said:

As tinpot as charging match by match for audio commentary?

Vastly more tinpot than that?

Not sure how they're even comparable.

One's the actual match that the EFL doesn't allow the clubs to provide for free, the other is an league mandated press conference that they don't have to charge for.

Edited January 17 by TeaCider24

[Borodane 7,456 27.1k]

15 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said:

Vastly more tinpot than that?

Not sure how they're even comparable.

One's the actual match that the EFL doesn't allow the clubs to provide for free, the other is a league mandated press conference that they don't have to charge for.

But they include match day audio commentary in that package and the deal is cheaper than us charging per match. It’s not just press conference though. Although I still don’t get why clubs put stuff like that behind a pay wall. It’s just alienating your fans. My hometown club does it too and a lot of fans are furious about it. I hate it. 

[TeaCider24 16,744 21.9k]

11 minutes ago, Borodane said:

But they include match day audio commentary in that package and the deal is cheaper than us charging per match. It’s not just press conference though. Although I still don’t get why clubs put stuff like that behind a pay wall. It’s just alienating your fans. My hometown club does it too and a lot of fans are furious about it. I hate it. 

You can buy the radio coverage for all 48+ matches for £45 on MFC.

Which works out as the exact same as that £5 a month, except they're not robbing fans of access to interviews and press conferences at the same time.

Both offer match by match commentary for £2.50, which is presumably the standard price set by the league, because it's £2.50 at every club.

Edited January 17 by TeaCider24

[Rob 6,084 9.3k]

looks like luton charge £2.5 as well per match as well (probs a standard charge between most clubs if they are using the radio like we do too),

they don't offer a yearly so the £5 is your deal for the month.

so your getting the £45 deal but on a monthly basis with no commitment (as they are 9 months, unless they charge you in the summer and you still pay),

so thats better in my eyes, since you can back out if don't need it and still keep the cost low.

but still paying for the radio commentry is something I doubt I'd want to do, do miss our phones not being able to use headphone wires to recieve FM radio tho, when was going to the odd match on my own when my son couldn't go it was sweet having the commentary on over the radio

but I'm sure most of the other content they are including we let people have access too for free, like match replays, highlights, pressers, interviews etc

[Neverbefore 14,012 28.5k]

1 minute ago, Rob said:

looks like luton charge £2.5 as well, don't offer a yearly so the £5 is your deal for the month,

so your getting the £45 deal but on a monthly basis with no commitment, so thats better in my eyes, since you can back out if don't need it and still keep the cost low.

 

I don't think the point is value of the audio for matches. There are people who can't afford to pay anything and won't get it either way who are now being locked out of content that every other club gives for free.

[TeaCider24 16,744 21.9k]

1 minute ago, Rob said:

looks like luton charge £2.5 as well, don't offer a yearly so the £5 is your deal for the month,

so your getting the £45 deal but on a monthly basis with no commitment, so thats better in my eyes, since you can back out if don't need it and still keep the cost low.

I'm not arsed about the cost of the radio coverage either way, it's consistent across clubs, I just don't agree with pay walling interviews.

Seems like Plymouth do it too.

I'm surprised Middlesbrough haven't tried it yet, with how the commercial side is mismanaged.

[Rob 6,084 9.3k]

16 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said:

I'm not arsed about the cost of the radio coverage either way, it's consistent across clubs, I just don't agree with pay walling interviews.

Seems like Plymouth do it too.

I'm surprised Middlesbrough haven't tried it yet, with how the commercial side is mismanaged.

I can't see there being any money in it, its defs a grab at trying to get people to take the content as a reason to get it if you don't need the commentary, as most people do not. I imagine its a pretty low up take, epically domestically, then factor in the local press releasing their own recordings from it like the bbc does for us, it takes away the need even more. 

they just trying to make the monthly offer seem like a bigger deal by saying hey you get the commentaries then as much content we can throw in as well. it reeks of people who don't understand the internet trying to make something seem better than it is, not realising its probably peeing fans off in the process.

we put ours on for free our own site and on youtube, like a lot of our other stuff like interviews and other content, and I imagine the club would make more money on free viewers on there from either youtube monetisation (or the sponsors in the videos). 

hardly any fans are playing for this content, thousands will consume it every week if its interesting tho for free, and you can monitise it for sure. 

its not much money tho, probs talking few hundred quid for the videos that are getting close to 5 figure views, but if you say £200 per 10k views, its a lot more than people are going to pay if you hide them behind a paywall. who of us would pay the £45 a month to listen to the pressers and why Dael Fry thinks the world flat. 

luton actually are getting on to 3x subscribers as us online, but getting similar number of views,

they would probs make more if they kept it all on there and left the radio separate, looking on their channel it looks like there is stuff I would imagine is included in that paywall that is still getting uploaded to youtube as well.

 

our club have probs been smart enough to realise they are already making money from them being free, and thats why they havent charged, they either bringing your to their online shops to listen, or pumping adverts into you on youtube for £200ish per 10k

[TeaCider24 16,744 21.9k]

I have started taking a cheap FM radio off Amazon to the match with me lately just so I can get the match commentary when I fancy listening to it, especially when it's dead in the stadium.

It does seem incredibly archaic that you can't listen to Boro matches on digital radio in 2024.

I get the geolocked content, but my phone location will clearly show I'm in the broadcast area of BBC Tees to begin with.

[Rob 6,084 9.3k]

26 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said:

I have started taking a cheap FM radio off Amazon to the match with me lately just so I can get the match commentary when I fancy listening to it, especially when it's dead in the stadium.

It does seem incredibly archaic that you can't listen to Boro matches on digital radio in 2024.

I get the geolocked content, but my phone location will clearly show I'm in the broadcast area of BBC Tees to begin with.

its going to be down to the local radio/bbc not paying the money it would take for it. this is why many clubs are selling it direct themselves.

seems daft that they can't still sell it themselves but licence it to them tho, money for old rope, maybe they make more from the commentary than we expect, maybe the local radio stations are just not interested in the additional expense.

one thing about radio is the revenue streams are on its ***, providing live and local entertainment is one of the highest costs for them, you get next to nothing for adverts, there's far less people listening than ever, and they are all moving away from having people live doing all the work on good money. they try to pre-record everything to keep peoples hours and wages down, and use the same pre-recorded content in multiple regions if they have multiple stations.

given the bbc does not even have the ability to place adverts on it the radio is a total loss to them. of course they get licence fees but without it they couldn't run these stations, and think they are there only out of an historical obligation to provide the service.

I bet the numbers they get listening is down year by year, the young ones don't care about radio, let alone the thought of listening to a match on it, I think people in their 40s plus still have it in mind as a choice given we had years where if you wasnt going to the match you had the choice to either put teletext on, listen on radio, or wait till the night to watch match of the day 

the little mini portable is probs a nice shout, never thought of that, if ya tried to use the app to listen on phone tho you probs wouldn't get enough signal on ya phone to listen to it lol

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Jobe Bellingham is starting to look the real deal isn’t he? Sunderland look very dangerous. 

[Nobby Barnes 371 628]

9 minutes ago, Swifty said:

Jobe Bellingham is starting to look the real deal isn’t he? Sunderland look very dangerous. 

He's gonna be some player Swifty.

One for the Notebook!

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Incredible from James Trafford

[Swifty 251 260]

17 minutes ago, Nobby Barnes said:

He's gonna be some player Swifty.

One for the Notebook!

He won’t be at Sunderland for long, if we somehow manage to get promoted I’d be all over signing him.