SouthernSmoggie 4,223 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Smoggydownsouth said: The gravitas of this is the club have to offer less money even over that short period as their income has been significantly reduced as have all clubs. Easier to negotiate with a player without a club than one who has his last big move in his career. Club knew the risks. Whilst I think it's a positive that we are no longer being dictated to by players I just hope we can scramble through next 9 games and stay up. If we do the financial outlook for MFC will be a lot better than 80% of championship clubs Why is that SDS? Because of shifting high earners and getting in a good position FFP wise? Link to post Share on other sites
HoyteForLeftBack 189 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 I don’t hold anything against him (it’s his career, injury prone, got kids/family etc). The thing that hacks me off is it comes out 4 days before we kick off again. It was always going to be difficult anyway (as we are pants) but this just doesn’t help matters in terms of game preparation. Hasn’t a contract offer been on the table since about Xmas? Club surely could’ve given Dani a deadline of say end of May, particularly with this Covid situation, then this would’ve blown over by now... Link to post Share on other sites
estonpidge 1,442 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, HoyteForLeftBack said: I don’t hold anything against him (it’s his career, injury prone, got kids/family etc). The thing that hacks me off is it comes out 4 days before we kick off again. It was always going to be difficult anyway (as we are pants) but this just doesn’t help matters in terms of game preparation. Hasn’t a contract offer been on the table since about Xmas? Club surely could’ve given Dani a deadline of say end of May, particularly with this Covid situation, then this would’ve blown over by now... for all we know the club have known for ages, just makes better headlines as we approach re-start 1 Link to post Share on other sites
HoyteForLeftBack 189 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 40 minutes ago, estonpidge said: for all we know the club have known for ages, just makes better headlines as we approach re-start That’s the thing though, if the club are releasing this now after knowing for a while, who is it helping? Who benefits? It doesn’t benefit the team or help the manager prepare for a relegation scrap. Surely Gibson can’t be lining this up as an excuse for going down? Link to post Share on other sites
mendieta420 988 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) Just a few thoughts.. I always loved Ayala.. up there with the best in the league in the style he plays It's a huge shame he's going out like this, when the club needs him more than ever. I'd love to know the real story behind his injury and why he wasn't playing when he was apparently fit. It can't be good for preparation but I suspect many clubs are dealing with similar issues which haven't been reported. Link to post Share on other sites
TLF10 4,440 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Is Ayala the best centre back we had since Robert Huth or would people say that accolade goes to Ben Gibson? Link to post Share on other sites
Liquid 284 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 B*ll*cks to it... I'll pull on the shirt for the last few games, and I'll do it for free. Link to post Share on other sites
Blanco 4,900 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, Liquid said: B*ll*cks to it... I'll pull on the shirt for the last few games, and I'll do it for free. Good man @Liquid I’ll buy the shirt with your name on it 👍 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Liquid 284 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Blanco said: Good man @Liquid I’ll buy the shirt with your name on it 👍 Thanks Blancs. The name's Jones... and I'm gunning for the number 4 shirt. I've got a feeling they'll allow me to do it in my old Grangefield PE kit though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, HoyteForLeftBack said: Surely Gibson can’t be lining this up as an excuse for going down? I think that entirely falls in line with my expectations of Gibson and co. right now, to be honest. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
TeaCider24 12,401 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Gazette article makes it sound more like a complete break down in relations. Link to post Share on other sites
Lord_Moose 387 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 From Ayalas point of view it makes complete sense, had C19 not happened then Ayala would have likely played the games and still left if we couldn't match his wages. Given his injury record and the apparent chance of warming the bench for Leeds in the prem you can't really blame him for not wanting to risk it. As has been previously said, if we were up top battling for something I imagine he would stay and fight but the club has messed that up greatly. If it is true that we had a contract offer on the table for a year then why didn't we try to get rid of him in January so he didn't leave on a free instead? Link to post Share on other sites
Borodane 6,246 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lord_Moose said: From Ayalas point of view it makes complete sense, had C19 not happened then Ayala would have likely played the games and still left if we couldn't match his wages. Given his injury record and the apparent chance of warming the bench for Leeds in the prem you can't really blame him for not wanting to risk it. As has been previously said, if we were up top battling for something I imagine he would stay and fight but the club has messed that up greatly. If it is true that we had a contract offer on the table for a year then why didn't we try to get rid of him in January so he didn't leave on a free instead? I can understand why he chooses not to risk a 2 million a year deal but that doesn’t make him any less disloyal to the club that has paid him handsomely for 7 years and even for the past 6 months without him playing a single minute of football. We need him more than ever now and he has chosen money over the club. It’s what I expect from players though. Link to post Share on other sites
Smogzilla 7,385 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Rather brutal report from Vickers on Ayala. Not sure if it's a hatchet job from the gazette but if some of that is true, good riddance. Link to post Share on other sites
Borodane 6,246 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Smoggydownsouth said: The gravitas of this is the club have to offer less money even over that short period as their income has been significantly reduced as have all clubs. Easier to negotiate with a player without a club than one who has his last big move in his career. Club knew the risks. Whilst I think it's a positive that we are no longer being dictated to by players I just hope we can scramble through next 9 games and stay up. If we do the financial outlook for MFC will be a lot better than 80% of championship clubs This has all the hallmarks of a repeat of the season under Robson where we just had to survive and we would strengthen the team with Roberto Carlos, Nadal, Batistuta etc. Link to post Share on other sites
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