'Other Boro stuff'

[nunthorpered 1,922]

1 minute ago, wilsoncgp said:

In what world is being paid less than you're currently on for the same job 'a very good deal' for anyone?  That's one thing I really don't agree with. If it's true he's been on 35-40k a week and been asked to take this, that essentially means that they're asking Ayala to take a significant amount of responsibility for their own mistakes, which have led to us needing to pay players less.

It might be a good deal 'for a Championship player' or a good deal if he was closing in on retirement. I'm pretty sure I know what context the club mean when they say 'a good deal' though. They mean 'this offer is good considering our financial position'. So Ayala has to make a judgement call. Does he feel he is so fundamentally responsible for our financial situation? If I was Dani Ayala, my answer to that would be "In what world is that my fault?"

In relation to our new wage structure i meant. 

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2 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said:

In what world is being paid less than you're currently on for the same job 'a very good deal' for anyone?  That's one thing I really don't agree with. If it's true he's been on 35-40k a week and been asked to take this, that essentially means that they're asking Ayala to take a significant amount of responsibility for their own mistakes, which have led to us needing to pay players less.

It might be a good deal 'for a Championship player' or a good deal if he was closing in on retirement. I'm pretty sure I know what context the club mean when they say 'a good deal' though. They mean 'this offer is good considering our financial position'. So Ayala has to make a judgement call. Does he feel he is so fundamentally responsible for our financial situation? If I was Dani Ayala, my answer to that would be "In what world is that my fault?"

especially if he knows he can get twice as much by playing just down the road.

[Dan_Boro_Till_I_Die 1,181]

Hull have just announced four players including Maddison and Irvine are not going to play. 

[Smogzilla 7,482]

 

 

Pretty bleak for hull

[wilsoncgp 9,280]

5 minutes ago, nunthorpered said:

In relation to our new wage structure i meant. 

Exactly my point, mate. So it's not a very good deal for Ayala at all. But that's part of this story, part of how the story is meant to be taken, to make people think he's a greedy sod for wanting to keep his salary high. If my work said they were reducing my salary by even £5k a year because of how they were having to 'restructure' their wage bill, that's sod all to do with me and everything to do with the way the business has been run prior to that. Yet even though we can pretty much see the disparity in wages and we all know why it's happened, we are still supposed to be reading that and thinking badly of the player and not the club. It's madness.

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3 minutes ago, Smogzilla said:

 

 

Pretty bleak for hull

get in

[Brunners 7,982]

That includes Hulls captain & vice captain. Oof.

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10 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said:

Exactly my point, mate. So it's not a very good deal for Ayala at all. But that's part of this story, part of how the story is meant to be taken, to make people think he's a greedy sod for wanting to keep his salary high. If my work said they were reducing my salary by even £5k a year because of how they were having to 'restructure' their wage bill, that's sod all to do with me and everything to do with the way the business has been run prior to that. Yet even though we can pretty much see the disparity in wages and we all know why it's happened, we are still supposed to be reading that and thinking badly of the player and not the club. It's madness.

It's about three lines in the entire article.  You've spoken about it more than the Gazette did.  I think the issues are far more about the extent of the injury and him requesting a free transfer in January than they are about not signing a new contract.  Players leave at the end of their contracts all of the time.  They don't all have mysterious injuries or request free transfers before the contract has actually ended though.  Moving house before the end of the contract might be seen as taking the *** a little as well.

[Lurker 2,118]

Don’t know anything that’s going on at the moment.

I fully expected Ayala not to play. Positives that the rest of those who’s contracts are expiring have agreed to play. 

[nunthorpered 1,922]

2 minutes ago, Lurker said:

Don’t know anything that’s going on at the moment.

I fully expected Ayala not to play. Positives that the rest of those who’s contracts are expiring have agreed to play. 

good to see you on here Lurker. Hope you are well mate

[Smogzilla 7,482]

I know Maddison hasn't exactly shined for Hull but losing him when they signed him as a Bowen replacement in January must be a real sickener.

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1 minute ago, Smogzilla said:

I know Maddison hasn't exactly shined for Hull but losing him when they signed him as a Bowen replacement in January must be a real sickener.

Well done Boro on dodging that particular bullet.  We usually just throw ourselves in front of them like a Secret Service agent guarding the President.

[TeaCider24 12,632]

Sounds nasty, and I'd get *** off if I heard an opposition fan saying it about us, but I really hope that these players refusing to play really badly impacts Hull and Charlton's results.

I just want us to stay up, hahah. Would love to be safe with games to spare.

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4 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said:

Sounds nasty, and I'd get *** off if I heard an opposition fan saying it about us, but I really hope that these players refusing to play really badly impacts Hull and Charlton's results.

I just want us to stay up, hahah. Would love to be safe with games to spare.

Hull can barely field a team of championship quality players & sold their only two sources of goals in January, so I strongly believe they'll slip into the bottom 3. The question is; will that be enough? Will we do better than one of the other teams down there, the Charltons, Lutons etc.

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1 hour ago, diggerlad07 said:

I wonder what has caused it to come out all of a sudden especially when he played some part in the game against Huddersfield. For all we know he could of been the player who picked up a mysterious injury again on Saturday and the club thought enough is enough.... It's all second guessing but one thing for sure is we are significantly weaker without him in the current side.

Good point about the player who picked up an injury. You mentioned that on Saturday. Agree with your last sentence whole heartedly.

Shame it ended as it has but ultimately we as a club got much bigger things to deal with than Ayala and his departure so hope it is put to bed.