cyprusboro 21 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 46 minutes ago, mendieta420 said: ugh I come on here hoping to hear some ITK'er has heard Woody's on his last chance one can only hope what we need is for the players who were injured in December leaving woodgate with no choice in who he picks get injured again, the guy is clueless Link to post Share on other sites
edinboro 815 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Saturday to me looked like players who are unfit and don't know what the tactics were. One or the other understandable but not both. Clubs seem to have prioritised fitness or organisation. We seem to have done neither. We can only hope the team for Saturday has the pace and goals to get something from the game. But I have started telling my son how much fun the one season I experienced in Division 3 was. Lots of cool trips if the club can survive relegation. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
boroie 484 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 4 hours ago, SmogDane said: INSANITY Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different outcome .. Yes but persistence is doing the same thing over and over again until you get the desired outcome. Link to post Share on other sites
estonpidge 1,449 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) I'd happily welcome Chris Hughton to the club, but can't see why he'd want to take the job at the minute. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Dan_Boro_Till_I_Die 1,181 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Its like we have Monk back in charge again chopping and changing, getting murdered down the flanks yet he still got better results than Woody. Part of the problem is our coaching staff too. What do they bring to the table? Link to post Share on other sites
Duvel 2,446 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 33 minutes ago, edinboro said: Saturday to me looked like players who are unfit and don't know what the tactics were. One or the other understandable but not both. Clubs seem to have prioritised fitness or organisation. We seem to have done neither. We can only hope the team for Saturday has the pace and goals to get something from the game. But I have started telling my son how much fun the one season I experienced in Division 3 was. Lots of cool trips if the club can survive relegation. If only we had a similar group of players to get us out of the 3rd tier. Link to post Share on other sites
estonpidge 1,449 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Maybe we should give Woody a copy of FM then he can let that pick his team once he's decided on a formation Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,347 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 19 minutes ago, boroie said: Yes but persistence is doing the same thing over and over again until you get the desired outcome. I think the club have been taking the persistence for a while now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Rioch's Braves 711 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 40 minutes ago, Dan_Boro_Till_I_Die said: Its like we have Monk back in charge again chopping and changing, getting murdered down the flanks yet he still got better results than Woody. Part of the problem is our coaching staff too. What do they bring to the table? The coaching staff are the old pals act, but at least they're all clueless, thank god we haven't brought someone in as part of the backroom staff who could actually coach, it would have been a terrible showing up for Woody and the rest of his merry man and we can't have that. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mendieta420 1,008 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 53 minutes ago, estonpidge said: I'd happily welcome Chris Hughton to the club, but can't see why he'd want to take the job at the minute. apparently Birmingham wanted him and Jokanovic but both want a massive budget.. same problem we supposedly had last summer 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Redcar Rioja 5,976 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Nigel Adkins is probably at the upper end of what MFC could afford and maybe attract. The greater problem however is the Chairman and his shiny new clothes. I'm pretty sure that what has happened at Boro won't have gone unnoticed to many in the game and what would once upon a time have been regarded as a great managerial opportunity will now be regarded as toxic. Link to post Share on other sites
SzilardNemethsCurtains 2,844 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Redcar Rioja said: Nigel Adkins is probably at the upper end of what MFC could afford and maybe attract. The greater problem however is the Chairman and his shiny new clothes. I'm pretty sure that what has happened at Boro won't have gone unnoticed to many in the game and what would once upon a time have been regarded as a great managerial opportunity will now be regarded as toxic. Explain how it's toxic? Pulis was given years and cash, Monk was backed, Woodgate even in poor financial circumstances was backed with loans and signings. We are crap at the moment but let's not paint it as a bad job Link to post Share on other sites
SzilardNemethsCurtains 2,844 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 1 hour ago, estonpidge said: I'd happily welcome Chris Hughton to the club, but can't see why he'd want to take the job at the minute. The type of managers we are after have changed, we are definitely not in that management pool anymore. Hughton wants prem jobs or top 6 championship teams with plenty of money We need to be looking at upcoming managers or someone who was done well abroad, at a push an experienced assistant/coach like Karanka and Steve McClaren were. But we can't go with total inexperience like.our current set up 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SzilardNemethsCurtains 2,844 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, edinboro said: If you remember back the Gazette did stick their neck out and got banned. Just like at Hull. One of them even lost their job. Rock and hard place. Speak out and lose access. Don't and get it in the neck from people reading your articles. If they have no access they have no stories and no content other than critique. I feel for them. But it does get a bit of a joke sometimes. They have been fairly critical since Saturday though. Exactly this, all these people calling them for them to be critical when we have seen what happens when they take a hard line with the club. With print media in its current state they'd be mad to lose one of their biggest allies but surely that's where fans come in with in depth takes on the club and making sure those stories are spread widely It's untrue to say they're not critical either, they've been critical of Woodgate and the performances throughout the season but it would be suicide for them to call for Gibson to leave as some feel like they should. One story from Vickers which absolutely was straight from the club is not the same as them making out like it's all rosy Link to post Share on other sites
Redcar Rioja 5,976 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, SzilardNemethsCurtains said: Explain how it's toxic? Pulis was given years and cash, Monk was backed, Woodgate even in poor financial circumstances was backed with loans and signings. We are crap at the moment but let's not paint it as a bad job From one of the best Chairmen in the game to seeming distrusting paranoid nepotism isn't a great advert. Just the appointment and manner of Woodgate in itself speaks volumes. Feel free to see it differently however, its all about perceptions and opinions. Link to post Share on other sites
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