Brunners 7,952 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Borodane said: I certainly can’t disagree with anything you’ve said there. If they can offer it to foreign supporters for 120 pounds then surely they can offer it to the domestic supporters too, but that’s probably because of domestic tv deals. Sky isn’t available here so they are not going to lose anything. If that’s the reason then I see no reason why international viewers shouldn’t get the “market price” and not the bloated price due to UK TV deals. It’s obviously still making the club money by offering it for 120 pounds (is my guess). But I can totally understand why domestic viewers are going to feel unfairly treated. I’m also guessing the club will quietly rather have people use Vpns rather than not buy anything. Pretty sure it is. The £10 a game thing is an EFL mandated price, although I think some other clubs are working around it, I think Stoke are offering like a 10 game package or something, although I can't find where I saw that now (i know they're doing that for their season tickets too) Link to post Share on other sites
BillyWoofs_shinpad 1,884 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Just now, Brunners said: Not usually, no, whether I use spotify or buy an album, bands aren't making much either way. The vast majority of bands make the vast majority of their income through touring and merch, so I'll go to a gig or buy a shirt or two. You must have very empty shelves. You can’t beat a good gatefold sleeve. Link to post Share on other sites
Will 2,958 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, BillyWoofs_shinpad said: It’s just simple economics, for at least the first part of the season the club is going to be reliant on revenue from season tickets and selling streams. Why wouldn’t you want to pay for it? If my favourite band releases a new album, I’ll make sure I buy it on vinyl, even though I could download it illegally. That’s because I want the band to enjoy success and to continue performing and writing. I’m sorry if I came across as holier than thou, I just wanted to put my thoughts out there so that people might think about the implications of using a VPN before they bought an international pass. Please pay £10 for each match that you watch, it will help the club. If you don’t want to, then that’s your prerogative, but £10 a match isn’t a massive amount really is it? It was just a joke mate. I probably won't end up buying them, I can't justify the cost for what you get in return. However, it's just a choice, if you're happy paying full whack for it then you are free to, if someone else can find a way to pay less perfectly legally and chooses to then they are also free to. Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,952 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Just now, BillyWoofs_shinpad said: You must have very empty shelves. You can’t beat a good gatefold sleeve. Actually, I don't currently have ANY shelves. I had to take them down because they were actually bowing under the weight of how full they were. Mostly books. Don't get me wrong, I do have a ridiculous amount of physical albums, but most of them are from before spotify really took off and I lived next door to a HMV. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BillyWoofs_shinpad 1,884 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Just now, Will said: It was just a joke mate. I probably won't end up buying them, I can't justify the cost for what you get in return. However, it's just a choice, if you're happy paying full whack for it then you are free to, if someone else can find a way to pay less perfectly legally and chooses to then they are also free to. Fair enough. I think the key word is “legally” is it illegal to buy a foreign pass if you live in the UK? Link to post Share on other sites
Will 2,958 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 minute ago, BillyWoofs_shinpad said: Fair enough. I think the key word is “legally” is it illegal to buy a foreign pass if you live in the UK? It will be against the club's policies, but it isn't illegal. Link to post Share on other sites
BillyWoofs_shinpad 1,884 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Will said: It will be against the club's policies, but it isn't illegal. What if you were to give a foreign address? I’m sure that when I lived in Spain I had to supply them with an address and post code to buy the games. Link to post Share on other sites
Will 2,958 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 minute ago, BillyWoofs_shinpad said: What if you were to give a foreign address? I’m sure that when I lived in Spain I had to supply them with an address and post code to buy the games. Not sure on that one. Last season it was just based on IP address, people used UK debit/credit cards for payment. Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Remember when Billy had a go at me about money? Those were the days. 😄 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,219 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said: Remember when Billy had a go at me about money? Those were the days. 😄 Was that when you splashed out on a telly rather than go to the Boro games? Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Will said: Not sure on that one. Last season it was just based on IP address, people used UK debit/credit cards for payment. Yeah, I remember in the first season of iFollow when I had access to a free VPN that some sites would ensure you had a foreign address but I don't think it had to match your card sometimes, so I'd pick a random place in Norway or something. As it's not illegal to pay with pretty much any card from anywhere in the world, regardless of where you're based. In fact (though I'm not exactly 'savvy' in this territory), given exchange rates I suspect when you're paying for something that takes payment in GBP, even someone paying for a matchday pass is more likely to use a UK card if they have one, regardless of where they actually live? Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Changing Times said: Was that when you splashed out on a telly rather than go to the Boro games? I can't remember entirely but I think you might be right. Still got that telly now, still going strong. Link to post Share on other sites
BillyWoofs_shinpad 1,884 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said: I can't remember entirely but I think you might be right. Still got that telly now, still going strong. Ah yes I was pointing out that films looked and sounded better on a decent TV rather than a laptop. You berated me because a lot of people can’t afford a TV and watch things on their laptop. later you mentioned that you had spent a fortune on a 4k TV even though you couldn’t afford it. It was all a bit comical at the time. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
BillyWoofs_shinpad 1,884 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 26 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said: Yeah, I remember in the first season of iFollow when I had access to a free VPN that some sites would ensure you had a foreign address but I don't think it had to match your card sometimes, so I'd pick a random place in Norway or something. As it's not illegal to pay with pretty much any card from anywhere in the world, regardless of where you're based. In fact (though I'm not exactly 'savvy' in this territory), given exchange rates I suspect when you're paying for something that takes payment in GBP, even someone paying for a matchday pass is more likely to use a UK card if they have one, regardless of where they actually live? Yeah I used my UK credit card when I lived in Spain and it worked fine. Before anyone asks, I paid per game 😃 Link to post Share on other sites
BillyWoofs_shinpad 1,884 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 29 minutes ago, Changing Times said: Was that when you splashed out on a telly rather than go to the Boro games? No, that was when he bought the Leeds/Real Madrid limited edition Boro 3rd shirt. I’m always trying to help Mr Wilson watch the pennies. Link to post Share on other sites
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