Borodane 6,246 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, estonpidge said: https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/every-championship-free-agent-available-23123035 we've got to be all over the Sam Johnstone from the Baggies He will definitely be going to the Prem. But if we are promoted he’s an obvious choice. Would also be interested in taking that young Festy Ebosele from Derby to see if we can turn him into a left sided Isiah Jones. Kristian Pedersen from Birmingham if don’t get promoted seems like a sensible choice too to battle with Bola. He’s probably a better defender than attacker though. Link to post Share on other sites
Humpty 3,246 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 If you don’t think Tav is an attribute to this team, then football isn’t for you. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,952 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 39 minutes ago, Borodane said: He will definitely be going to the Prem. But if we are promoted he’s an obvious choice. Would also be interested in taking that young Festy Ebosele from Derby to see if we can turn him into a left sided Isiah Jones. Kristian Pedersen from Birmingham if don’t get promoted seems like a sensible choice too to battle with Bola. He’s probably a better defender than attacker though. I'm not sure many Derby players - especially the younger ones from their youth system - will be particularly keen on coming to the club a lot of them think tried to ruin them. Link to post Share on other sites
GrimsbyBoro 1,959 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 42 minutes ago, Brunners said: I'm not sure many Derby players - especially the younger ones from their youth system - will be particularly keen on coming to the club a lot of them think tried to ruin them. There footballers once they see £££ nothing matters. Link to post Share on other sites
osvaldo 36 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Borodane said: He will definitely be going to the Prem. But if we are promoted he’s an obvious choice. Would also be interested in taking that young Festy Ebosele from Derby to see if we can turn him into a left sided Isiah Jones. Kristian Pedersen from Birmingham if don’t get promoted seems like a sensible choice too to battle with Bola. He’s probably a better defender than attacker though. Ebosele looks like a young Adama. Natural left sided attacking wing back. He probably should be one of our top targets after a keeper. Especially if we can get him on a free. Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 2 hours ago, GrimsbyBoro said: There footballers once they see £££ nothing matters. There's not a lot of players in that Derby team I'd be throwing £££ at. Not sure of anyone in their side who I'd actually take. I think there's only really Bielik who is an improvement on what we have but given what they spent to sign him, I reckon we could find similar quality for much less money. Not to mention he's had 2 long-term injuries, is it? Link to post Share on other sites
GrimsbyBoro 1,959 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 1 hour ago, wilsoncgp said: There's not a lot of players in that Derby team I'd be throwing £££ at. Not sure of anyone in their side who I'd actually take. I think there's only really Bielik who is an improvement on what we have but given what they spent to sign him, I reckon we could find similar quality for much less money. Not to mention he's had 2 long-term injuries, is it? I haven’t really watched them close enough. Lawrence always impresses but don’t think he would suit us. my point was more Derby players won’t care about what’s gone if they are offered a better deal here. Link to post Share on other sites
estonpidge 1,442 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, GrimsbyBoro said: I haven’t really watched them close enough. Lawrence always impresses but don’t think he would suit us. my point was more Derby players won’t care about what’s gone if they are offered a better deal here. just offering to pay them every month would be a start Link to post Share on other sites
p_mards 1,363 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) Ebosele is right footed. He's not left footed. He plays down the right flank for Derby. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ManBearPig 1,833 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 19 hours ago, Changing Times said: Half of oneBoro didn't even want him in the side two months ago. Drive him to Leeds etc etc 🙌 He’s playing completely different roles in Wilders boro to under Warnock to be fair. He’s unrecognisable now compared to before. I’m glad he’s turned it around though. The simple side of his game wasn’t even there with Warnock to some extent. He’s simplified his game beautifully now and is a welcomed addition but let’s not gloss over him being good under Warnock Link to post Share on other sites
Neverbefore 10,695 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, ManBearPig said: He’s playing completely different roles in Wilders boro to under Warnock to be fair. He’s unrecognisable now compared to before. I’m glad he’s turned it around though. The simple side of his game wasn’t even there with Warnock to some extent. He’s simplified his game beautifully now and is a welcomed addition but let’s not gloss over him being good under Warnock The two things Tav was criticised for under Warnock were his set pieces and his wild shots from everywhere. Those things have disappeared overnight with wilder in control - it's very obvious that he was acting on Warnocks instructions, which I did say at the time. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Will 2,958 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 21 minutes ago, ManBearPig said: He’s playing completely different roles in Wilders boro to under Warnock to be fair. He’s unrecognisable now compared to before. I’m glad he’s turned it around though. The simple side of his game wasn’t even there with Warnock to some extent. He’s simplified his game beautifully now and is a welcomed addition but let’s not gloss over him being good under Warnock Can't agree on him playing a completely different role. Slightly different I can go with, but he's fundamentally the same player he has been all season. The stats posted earlier in this thread are for the full season, which is roughly 50% Wilder 50% Warnock at this point. He didn't get generate those stats just in Wilders games. He is shooting less and his set pieces are significantly more consistent are the two biggest changes I have noticed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Humpty 3,246 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, ManBearPig said: He’s playing completely different roles in Wilders boro to under Warnock to be fair. He’s unrecognisable now compared to before. I’m glad he’s turned it around though. The simple side of his game wasn’t even there with Warnock to some extent. He’s simplified his game beautifully now and is a welcomed addition but let’s not gloss over him being good under Warnock What's he turned around? The reason he doesn't shoot half as near as much any more is two fold. Wilder believes in creating quality chances not speculative efforts and he's not playing on the left which means he's not often in a position to shoot with his preferred foot. Link to post Share on other sites
ManBearPig 1,833 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 25 minutes ago, Humpty said: What's he turned around? The reason he doesn't shoot half as near as much any more is two fold. Wilder believes in creating quality chances not speculative efforts and he's not playing on the left which means he's not often in a position to shoot with his preferred foot. I don’t see him breaking forward as much as before and giving away possession ‘needlessly’. I think the shape of the team is also different now where as we are more structured, and as a result he doesn’t need to go forward as much. Because he doesn’t need to be as risky, he is looking more competent on the ball and is therefore being more effective in my eyes 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Humpty 3,246 Posted February 17, 2022 Share Posted February 17, 2022 He was just asked to play a different role. He was (probably) the most important in that Warnock team. We're less reliant on his attacking abilities in this set up which means he might not be trying to force the issue as much as he was before. I can understand that perspective. He still gets forward as much as he did back then he just receives the ball higher up the pitch so he doesn't carry the ball as often as he did previously. Link to post Share on other sites
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