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very high hopes for him, can probably make it if he keeps at it. Been with academy for ten years and always seen as a year or two better than others, so definitely should be one Scott looking at for Northern/National League at very least and if they can interest Pools or Harrogate, would benefit even more

 

 

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Great quote from Kevin Blackwell in the Athletic today 🤣🤣🤣

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Completely forgot we still had Fisher... Wasn't he playing pretty well before his injury?

Great to have Browne back too, he's got a class attitude and comes across as a proper Boro fan on social media. Was finally hitting form when he got injured in that crappy cup game. 

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Just now, Brunners said:

Sky have moved our away game with Bournemouth to a 12.30 kick off because of course they have.

Aww man, that just means more of the day being sad when we lose 😞

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On 10/24/2021 at 9:28 PM, GrimsbyBoro said:

Has this weekends Spence report come in?

Or does it just cover selected highlights? 

Not that it matters I suppose but apparently another motm performance tonight.  Head and shoulders above everyone was one comment I read.  Another was that he was a negative tonight because he's pricing Forest out of being able to sign him. 

'DJ Ed man of the match for me, absolute Cafu-esque performance tonight, he bombed forwarded and defended in equal measure, and terrified the blunts defenders.'

'Negatives. Spence is pricing us out of us buying him game by game. Brilliant performance and the driving force of this side atm'

'Really enjoyable watch. Spence superb.'

'Signing Spence is an absolute must'

'Spence man of the match by a mile.'

'Spence was miles ahead of anyone else on the pitch tonight.'

'Djed Spence was immense'

 

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Match of the Day Top 10 podcast: Gary Lineker, Alan Shearer & Micah Richards rank Premier League debuts

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59067340

"Fabrizio Ravanelli (Richards: 1st, Shearer: 2nd)

Debuts don't get much better than this. Ravanelli scored a hat-trick against Liverpool on his Premier League debut on the opening day of the 1996-97 season, earning his new side a point in a 3-3 draw after arriving from Juventus. The Italian striker scored 16 goals in his first season in the English top-flight, though he was unable to prevent Bryan Robson's side from suffering relegation.

Richards: Come on, a hat-trick on your debut. If you score a hat-trick on your debut - even if the first was a penalty - you have got to give it to him. That's a dream debut.

Shearer: I'm not going to argue with that. I understand.

Lineker: You can't argue with it because I get the deciding vote, and I'm going to go with Ravanelli."

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18 hours ago, Changing Times said:

Not that it matters I suppose but apparently another motm performance tonight.  Head and shoulders above everyone was one comment I read.  Another was that he was a negative tonight because he's pricing Forest out of being able to sign him. 

'DJ Ed man of the match for me, absolute Cafu-esque performance tonight, he bombed forwarded and defended in equal measure, and terrified the blunts defenders.'

'Negatives. Spence is pricing us out of us buying him game by game. Brilliant performance and the driving force of this side atm'

'Really enjoyable watch. Spence superb.'

'Signing Spence is an absolute must'

'Spence man of the match by a mile.'

'Spence was miles ahead of anyone else on the pitch tonight.'

'Djed Spence was immense'

 

Good.  I don't think there's any chance of him coming back here so the best thing we can hope for is his performances are getting noticed by Wolves, West Ham, Rangers and the others that were supposedly interested.

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2 minutes ago, Hendrie_7 said:

Good.  I don't think there's any chance of him coming back here so the best thing we can hope for is his performances are getting noticed by Wolves, West Ham, Rangers and the others that were supposedly interested.

Yeah, that's my take on it as well.  There will definitely people watching him that's for sure.

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I was bored and reading some stuff on the other forum, well I was reading some stuff on the other forum, and then later I was bored so I thought I'd follow Newy and look at some comparisons between this season and previous seasons, to get a flavour of how we stack up with previous teams.

After 16 games we have 21 points, 6 wins, 3 draws, 7 defeats  We have 18 goals for and 18 against.  We are in 14th place.

Last season we had 24 points with 6 wins, 6 draws, 4 defeats.  16 goals for, 11 against.  We were in 10th place.

Under Woodgate 13 points, 2 wins, 7 draws, 7 defeats.  13 goals for, 21 against.  We were 22nd.

Pulis 2018/19 - 28 points, 7 wins, 7 draws, 2 defeats, 17 goals for 8 against.  We were 4th.

Monk 2017/18 - 26 points, 7 wins, 5 draws, 4 defeats, 21 goals for 13 against, We were 5th.

Karanka 2015/16 - 30 points, 9 wins, 3 draws, 4 defeats, 24 goals for, 12 against.  We were 2nd.

Karanka 2014/15 - 30 points, 9 wins, 3 draws, 4 defeats, 26 goals for, 12 against, We were 4th.

Mowbray 2013/14 - 16 points, 3 wins, 7 draws, 6 defeats, 26 goals for, 26 against, We were 19th.

Mowbray 2012/13 - 32 points 10 wins, 2 draws, 4 defeats, 28 goals for, 20 against, We were 2nd.

Mowbray 2011/12 - 30 points, 8 wins, 6 draws, 2 defeats, 20 goals for, 12 against.  We were 3rd.

Strachan 2010/11 - 17 points, 5 wins, 2 draws, 9 defeats, 17 goals for, 25 against.  We were 19th.

Southgate 2009/10 - 24 points 7 wins, 3 draws, 6 defeats, 25 goals for, 17 against.  We were 10th.

Those final two seasons in the list had a little bit of the following manager involved as well, as we sacked Southgate and Strachan around this time of both seasons.

So what can we say then looking at the above?  In the last 12 years, since we were relegated in 2009, we have only started 3 seasons worse than this season - 1 under Strachan, 1 under Mowbray, 1 under Woodgate.  All three managers were sacked during those seasons, and Strachan and Mowbray were sacked at this point in the season as well as it happens.

Only Strachan started with more defeats (9).  Woodgate was level on 7.  

Only Strachan, Mowbray (once) and Woodgate started with fewer wins.

Only Strachan, Woodgate, and Pulis started with fewer goals scored.

Only Strachan, Mowbray (twice), and Woodgate started with more goals conceded.

Only Strachan and Woodgate started with a worse goal difference.

The only positive comparisons we can make with previous seasons are with Strachan, Woodgate, and the season that Mowbray was sacked.  Every other season, under whoever was the manager, even including Warnock last season, was a better start to the season than this one.

It's strange for me to read anyone trying to compare us to the 2014/15 season, which is happening over on FMTTM for some reason.  9 wins, 3 draws, 4 defeats and 30 points versus 6 wins, 3 draws, 7 defeats 21 points.  26 goals for, 12 against, versus 18 goals for 18 goals against.  9 points difference in only 16 games is actually huge.  It's essentially about 25 points difference over a 46 game season.  We finished that season on 85 points, so that would equate to us finishing on about 60 points, which is precisely what we are on course to do now.  60 points, even in this season, won't be enough to make the play offs.  We'd be 10/15 points short, which obviously is what we are on course to be as it stands. 

The fact that there are really only 3 good sides in the division gives us some hope but our own form would still have to pick up for it to make any difference.  We need about 51 points to make the play offs in the final 30 games in all likelihood.  To do that means 1.7 points per game for the rest of the season.  We've only managed that for one small period under Warnock as far as I can see - the very start of last season when we got 16 points from the first 9 games.  I don't think we've managed it over more than a handful of games all the time he's been here.  Indeed, we are about 1.3 points per game overall under him.  It's quite a big turnaround required even if right now we are only 4 points from the play offs.

 

 

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