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7 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said:

They sold their best players and brought in a few cheap signings and loans.

They've done the exact same thing this year. All of those loans go and they start again. 

The only difference between what they've done this year, and what we did, is that Woodgate was rubbish and Steve Cooper is not.

Given I do not dread Warnock's football, management or signings, I've no issue with him laying the ground for his replacement. 

If we had Steve Cooper in charge at the start of this season, do you think we'd be where Swansea are?

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Must of us would loved to have seen JW's vision of a golden thread come true, but very few if not none of us really believed he was the man to deliver it.

JW aside, The idea of a vision going forwards a consistancy of coaching methods etc is all we want (as long as it delivers entertainment) 

We should have had evolution after Karanka not revolution.

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5 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said:

If we had Steve Cooper in charge at the start of this season, do you think we'd be where Swansea are?

It wouldn't have surprised me.

We finished 7th last season above  Cooper's Swansea, and I don't think Downing, Mikel, Besic and Flint were the sole reason for that, though obviously our transfers may have differed with a different manager.

Our squad is unbalanced and has many weaknesses, but we shouldn't be anywhere near where we are right now.

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4 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said:

If we had Steve Cooper in charge at the start of this season, do you think we'd be where Swansea are?

No, we don't have the players required for that type of football, because we are buying players who fit a style of football no longer fit for purpose.

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1 minute ago, estonpidge said:

No, we don't have the players required for that type of football, because we are buying players who fit a style of football no longer fit for purpose.

If he had been in charge the targets would have been different.

I expect his former position as an England youth manager bore fruit for some of his loan signings. 

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1 minute ago, TeaCider24 said:

If he had been in charge the targets would have been different.

I expect his former position as an England youth manager bore fruit for some of his loan signings. 

But Saville, McNair etc would still be here!

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21 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said:

If he had been in charge the targets would have been different.

I expect his former position as an England youth manager bore fruit for some of his loan signings. 

Except this summer our squad was, by and large, mostly locked in thanks to albatross contracts we gave & signings we made. Gestede, McNair, Saville etc etc.

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In an ideal world the Club would be well run and have an established plan that was well prepared and followed diligently by individuals with the correct skill sets in researching, setting up and implementing it let alone following it through to conclusion. The "Golden Thread" was a bit like seeing plans for a beautiful House and rather than employ the Architect to oversee construction along with those all important skilled tradespeople, four blokes sat around a pub table said we can do that and save ourselves a fortune!

The Chief bloke scribbled his not so elaborate plan on the back of a beer mat, the next bloke went out and bought some roof tiles, bricks, copper cable and 2x4's, the next bloke reckoned he could have a go at digging a few trenches so off he went to his garden shed and came back with a rake, a shovel and wheelbarrow with a wobbly wheel. That left one bloke, the youngest who was asked well what can you do? "I can show you on a PowerPoint" came the reply which really impressed the other three and their beer mat technology. So the four of them started to build their dream home convinced that they couldn't possibly go wrong!

Well the first problem was that nobody brought a hammer and so a screwdriver was used instead to knock some nails in. The structure wobbled a little bit but bloke number three assured them that it would stop wobbling when the roof went on. Enlightened by his wisdom they erected a roof but neglected to build the walls and when it started leaking and swaying a bit they sacked him. So the remaining three carried on and sure enough the weather was kind over Christmas and the lack of a chimney feature didn't spoil their festive fun one bit. This of course reassured them once again that they were indeed masters of their craft. Once the snow and rains came however they realised that they should have built the house with stronger foundations (any foundations even) and the choice of materials wasn't perhaps the best after all so they blamed the bloke with the PowerPoint and off he went!

The remaining two were now sat on a sorry muddy heap, wet through, surrounded by soaked plasterboard off-cuts, broken roof tiles and bricks without mortar as nobody had thought to order that key component in the first instance which is why it all fell apart. Now the Chief bloke had another bright idea as he knows a gadgie who has built loads of houses, maybe not 6 bedroom detached luxury villas but more than his fair share of 3 bed semis over many decades. The second bloke agrees they should ring him to ask if he has any plumbing tips (cue the slap on the back of the head). The "gadgie" tuns up, takes one look at the state of it all and declares they have too many bricks, not enough windows and hardly any mortar so it all needs ripping down.

Some of the villagers declared that they should have went with the original Architect after all while others were just happy to see the mess tidied up and put into some sort of order. The moral of the story (should you ever find yourself in such a ridiculous scenario) is that its difficult to remember that your original need was to drain the swamp when you are up to your necks in Alligators!

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46 minutes ago, Changing Times said:

And what happened next?

Tune in next season for the rest 😉

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49 minutes ago, Changing Times said:

And what happened next?

The "gadgie" built them a lovely cosy three bed semi complete with attached garage and even scope for conversion for a fourth bedroom should they need it.

What they done though was to convert it into a bedsit, attracted a load of undesirables who caused nothing but trouble, trashed the place. There was Chintz and Flock wallpaper everywhere and just 18 months later they had to start all over again.

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@Redcar Rioja I think that's the best post I've ever read on OneBoro. I really hope someone screen grabs it and sends it to Steve Gibson (if he doesn't already post on here under an alias).

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11 minutes ago, RiseAgainst said:

@Redcar Rioja I think that's the best post I've ever read on OneBoro. I really hope someone screen grabs it and sends it to Steve Gibson (if he doesn't already post on here under an alias).

I think I've seen him about. Isn't he the fella who goes under the name DefinitelyNotSteveGibson?

 

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