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1 hour ago, Brunners said:

I'm sure once they are we'll get our annual multiple pages long discussion between CT & Dan, who are seemingly the only two who ever read the things 😂

It's like Christmas Eve! 😂😂😂

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Great quote from Kevin Blackwell in the Athletic today 🤣🤣🤣

I can't imagine that game getting approved by Hasbro...

It's my birthday today, meant to be my 30th but I've refused to allow that in current circumstances of not being able to celebrate it. I usually get my age on the back of one of my shirts so I re

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2 hours ago, Changing Times said:

https://www.matchwornshirt.com/club/middlesbrough/634

I've probably missed this being posted on here but this is the link to the Boro shirts worn against Stoke City last weekend if anyone is interested in bidding.

Would be good if they did it as a raffle, instead of an auction. Money still goes to charity and it gives everyone a chance then, rather than just those with hundreds spare to spend on a football shirt. Even if they just did it for one or two of the shirts. 

Warnocks MOTM trophy raised thousands for charity with the raffle format. 

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Latest accounts lodged today. Will be interesting to see the impact of COVID on finances at end of last season. Available in 10 days to have a look.

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On 3/13/2020 at 8:57 PM, DanFromDownSouth said:

I think for the 2019/20 season we are looking at a loss of £25-30 Million.

That guess was pre-COVID. I sometimes know what I'm talking about.

19 minutes ago, Smogzilla said:

Thread from price of football on our accounts

 

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Total losses of £206 million! I've been very critical of Steven Gibson's decision-making in recent years, but it's impossible to fault his commitment to what is effectively a basket case of a business at present.

These figures make me wonder how bad wages-to-income figures will be at less securely owned clubs? I'm sure Reading's W-I ratio was beyond 250 per cent a couple of seasons ago, and that was when they still had people hitch-hiking to their stadium.

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Also was not expecting our "Profit on sales of registrations" to drop by nearly £30m, I think I predicted a £20m drop! Just goes to show how much the sales of Bamford, Gibson and Traore impacted our figures the year before!

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15 minutes ago, DanFromDownSouth said:

Gate Receipts, Sponsorship and Merchandising combined are down roughly £4.3M on the 2018/19 season, you'd assume that is probably as a direct result of COVID.

I doubt it's the main factor, personally.

Those accounts only include 4 missing home matches, it only goes to June 2020 and Covid only impacted in March with 9 games of the season left before suspension.

We were having a really bad season and attendances were suffering.

Covid was definitely a factor, but I think the loss of parachute payments and a bad season are the main impact in those accounts.

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18 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said:

I doubt it's the main factor, personally.

Those accounts only include 4 missing home matches, it only goes to June 2020 and Covid only impacted in March with 9 games of the season left before suspension.

We were having a really bad season and attendances were suffering.

Covid was definitely a factor, but I think the loss of parachute payments and a bad season are the main impact in those accounts.

Sorry, my thinking was just looking period the accounts ran too June 2020, we "lost" 3 home games due to the season being postponed. So as a direct result of COVID we have only had 20 home games recorded 1st July 19 - 30th June 20, whereas the last accounts had 23 games recorded (if that makes sense?). Add on to that the fact that we had a home game that was played in the period but with zero fans. So we only had 19 home games with fans.

Looking at the average attendance of 19/20 it is a similar level to the 14/15 season. In that season our gate receipts stood at around £8m, but included in that figure was a play-off game and a game at Wembley (Those 2 games maybe equate to £2m being generous). So for 19/20 I would be expecting a figure of roughly £6m if the season was entirely finished within the accounting period and we had fans in. 

* League Home games.

 

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14 minutes ago, TeaCider24 said:

I doubt it's the main factor, personally.

Those accounts only include 4 missing home matches, it only goes to June 2020 and Covid only impacted in March with 9 games of the season left before suspension.

We were having a really bad season and attendances were suffering.

Covid was definitely a factor, but I think the loss of parachute payments and a bad season are the main impact in those accounts.

I think the bad season won't really have had that much of an impact. We weren't really seeing less fans in the stadium than what we'd have come to expect of us when were at this level, beyond the couple of great seasons under karanka. 

It's more likely the wages - we were still paying several players premier League level wages (friend, Clayton, shotton, gestede come to mind). Without the comfort of parachute payments that is bound to leave a big hole.

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17 minutes ago, RiseAgainst said:

Total losses of £206 million! I've been very critical of Steven Gibson's decision-making in recent years, but it's impossible to fault his commitment to what is effectively a basket case of a business at present.

These figures make me wonder how bad wages-to-income figures will be at less securely owned clubs? I'm sure Reading's W-I ratio was beyond 250 per cent a couple of seasons ago, and that was when they still had people hitch-hiking to their stadium.

This is why I've been saying Gibson is probably happy for the club to just tread water for a while, until they can get the finances back to something resembling normality. Probably take a few seasons to recover from this fully, I'd have thought.

Those numbers look a lot scarier than I imagined.

 

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