ManBearPig 1,853 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Youd think for the money that they are on they would be able to be match fit after a period away from a game. For 15k a week, id do nothing but get match fit to play. I sometimes get the impression that footballers are too well pampered and protected these days Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,982 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Except the whole point of being match fit is that you can only really gain that fitness in a match. If you don't play for a while you'll lose that sharpness and will have to regain your match fitness when you start playing again. It's not even always fitness as much as it is mental fitness. Reaction times, thinking ahead of the play, that sort of thing. It's not something that can be gained off the field. Link to post Share on other sites
Borodane 6,301 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I appreciate that there is a difference, but the guy has been out for three games and hasn't even been injured. That really shouldn't mean that he is unable to play for 90 mins. Link to post Share on other sites
Humpty 3,261 Posted February 21, 2014 Author Share Posted February 21, 2014 Fitness is very grey area. It's about being fit for purpose. Not neccessarily fit in the old fashioned sense of the word. Brunners has the right idea. It's about being mentally sharp after an hour, being able to anticipate a pass, assessing the pace of the game from the first minute etc. He's been out for three of our games and he's still trying to adapt to the pace at which we play as well as the new players around him and different way they play. The only way he's going to achieve all that is by playing games. Whether thats coming on after an hour or starting the game and then being brought off later on is all down to Karanka's best judgement. Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,982 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I appreciate that there is a difference, but the guy has been out for three games and hasn't even been injured. That really shouldn't mean that he is unable to play for 90 mins. Except it does. If you stop playing for 3 weeks competitively, when you come back you can be as fit as a fiddle but chances are you'll look sluggish, off the pace, your vision to pick out a pass won't be as good because you're not thinking as quickly. That's only stuff that can be honed in a match setting and it's things that get blunt and start deteriorating very quickly. Link to post Share on other sites
AnglianRed 6,320 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I appreciate that there is a difference, but the guy has been out for three games and hasn't even been injured. That really shouldn't mean that he is unable to play for 90 mins. Except it does. If you stop playing for 3 weeks competitively, when you come back you can be as fit as a fiddle but chances are you'll look sluggish, off the pace, your vision to pick out a pass won't be as good because you're not thinking as quickly. That's only stuff that can be honed in a match setting and it's things that get blunt and start deteriorating very quickly. This. I think he was trying to point out the difference between physical fitness and "match sharpness", which is more about anticipation, awareness, speed of thought etc. which you can't really replicate on training. Well, you can to an extent, but because there isn't the same pressure as a competitive match, it can be difficult to get the right mindset. As to training in general, I suppose it spossible to overtrain as well, meaning you can go into matches with soreness, strains and general niggles that mean you're not at 100%, so you have to strike a balance. I guess it also depends on whether the club has you on the right training regime. Questions have been asked of Boro's training before, due to the alarming ease and regularity with which some of our players seem to pick up injuries. Link to post Share on other sites
northern boro 449 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Northern Echo predicted teams for tomorrow Subs Boro Steele (gk), Hines, Butterfield, Ledesma, Main, Kamara, Tomlin. Leeds Cairns (gk), Peltier, Wootton, Brown, Tonge, Hunt, Smith. Prediction: 1-1 Link to post Share on other sites
Prowler 197 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 We better not ***ing play Leadbitter there again :@ Link to post Share on other sites
boroinbishop 65 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Northern Echo predicted teams for tomorrow Subs Boro Steele (gk), Hines, Butterfield, Ledesma, Main, Kamara, Tomlin. Leeds Cairns (gk), Peltier, Wootton, Brown, Tonge, Hunt, Smith. Prediction: 1-1 Expect the opposite :P Link to post Share on other sites
MMC 1,000 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Read somewhere earlier this week that Byram picked up a hamstring injury in the last match. As always, unmatchable journalism by the ever reliable Echo! Link to post Share on other sites
BoroDownSouth 60 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 we're gonna win 3-1. Link to post Share on other sites
Borodane 6,301 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 we're gonna win 3-1. You do realize that you are implying that we will score three times, right? Or are you counting on a few own goals. Link to post Share on other sites
BoroDownSouth 60 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I imagine Karanka has absolutely ruined our team this week and told them in no uncertain terms to buck up. I fancy us. I am however, already accepting I'm gonna be massively wrong haha. Link to post Share on other sites
richmfc 41 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I appreciate that there is a difference, but the guy has been out for three games and hasn't even been injured. That really shouldn't mean that he is unable to play for 90 mins. Except it does. If you stop playing for 3 weeks competitively, when you come back you can be as fit as a fiddle but chances are you'll look sluggish, off the pace, your vision to pick out a pass won't be as good because you're not thinking as quickly. That's only stuff that can be honed in a match setting and it's things that get blunt and start deteriorating very quickly. It can affect your sharpness yes. But it shouldnt affect your ability to last 90 mins Link to post Share on other sites
BoroDownSouth 60 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Rich I've not played for about 10 weeks, I'm still keeping the same fitness routine as 10 weeks ago, I played on Sunday and had absolutely no energy. I came off around the hour mark, I was dying. You'd be surprised. Link to post Share on other sites
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