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6 hours ago, wilsoncgp said:

It's gone down but I suspect Trump still has it. It would be nice if Biden can take somewhere like Georgia just to make it feel like more of a success and not just feed Trump's cult followers into thinking the election is still on.

Either way, it's dreadful after the last 4 years that this is as close as it is. It's dreadful after the last 6 months even. It really goes to show that whilst Biden is doing a better job than Hilary, the Democrats can't put a decent candidate forward. If they're worried about socialist Biden in Florida then thank God they didn't select Bernie in the end... or maybe America really is just 50% happy to be led by a white supremacist. Maybe they've just been made to feel more human the last 4 years in their beliefs.

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Biden has all but won this, thankfully. 

Those republican protests sure are something else though.

"Stop the vote!"

Also republicans:

"Count every vote!"

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1 hour ago, Denzel Zanzibar said:

Biden has all but won this, thankfully. 

Those republican protests sure are something else though.

"Stop the vote!"

Also republicans:

"Count every vote!"

The desperate actions of people who know they are losing the election.

Even knowing what Trump is like, I still found his claims that the Republicans had won quite gobsmacking. His threats of legal action to stop the counts are just a step down from Putin having all his political opponents arrested, or scaring them into leaving Russia.

I thought some of the stuff that went on here during Brexit and the last election was bad, but this is on another level.

 

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It's mad seeing the MAGA Twitter response to Fox News calling Michigan. After 4 years of basically seeing it as gospel, now they're considering a boycott, calling Fox part of the fake news media. It's actually scary how in they go with the President's word. He comes out with bullshit that Twitter has finally decided to take him to task for that most media outlets also say is bullshit and baseless accusations and they believe him. If that's not a cult, I don't know what is.

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With WI & MI declared for Biden, he only really needs one of AZ, NV, GA or PA and he's close to flipping both GA and PA if the votes play out in the predicted manner.

He is being caught in NV and AZ I think but I don't think there's enough votes (for Trump) in either to actually flip.

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It seems so long since the side Farage has been supporting has lost which for me is refreshing. His interview on GMB was embarrassing he used the term Fake News and denied Trump mentioned injecting bleach/disinfectant despite them playing the clip for him. 

The idea 20 years ago of people getting more involved with politics seemed great. Unfortunately highlighted in the USA and to some extent Britain, people with ill-educated have the power to speak and influence a wider audience and people will see it as gospel (ie Republicans wanting all postal votes to be discredited). 

I don't think the US and UK populations  have ever been so divided than they are now.  

 

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Just now, smogsterking the Inspirati said:

It seems so long since the side Farage has been supporting has lost which for me is refreshing. His interview on GMB was embarrassing he used the term Fake News and denied Trump mentioned injecting bleach/disinfectant despite them playing the clip for him. 

The idea 20 years ago of people getting more involved with politics seemed great. Unfortunately highlighted in the USA and to some extent Britain, people with ill-educated have the power to speak and influence a wider audience and people will see it as gospel (ie Republicans wanting all postal votes to be discredited). 

I don't think the US and UK populations  have ever been so divided than they are now.  

The republicans aim is to quite seriously keep people stupid and uneducated because that's the only way they gain voters. The evidence shows if they educate people they're far more likely to swing left instead of right.

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1 minute ago, Brunners said:

The republicans aim is to quite seriously keep people stupid and uneducated because that's the only way they gain voters. The evidence shows if they educate people they're far more likely to swing left instead of right.

Totally agree i think the media like the Sun and Mail then people like Cummings/Farage/Johnson play that role over here. Unfortunately there are some self-righteous lefties that don't engage in debate and automatically label people racist/thick etc. I feel things like this caused the uprising of Trump and Brexit. 

An example recently was Chris Pratt not joining the Marvel cast at a democrat rally. Automatically people called him racist and scum yet he has never pledged his support for either party. But I have seen a lot of that on several issues. That stuff drives people further the other way than actually changing their viewpoint. 

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37 minutes ago, smogsterking the Inspirati said:

Totally agree i think the media like the Sun and Mail then people like Cummings/Farage/Johnson play that role over here. Unfortunately there are some self-righteous lefties that don't engage in debate and automatically label people racist/thick etc. I feel things like this caused the uprising of Trump and Brexit. 

An example recently was Chris Pratt not joining the Marvel cast at a democrat rally. Automatically people called him racist and scum yet he has never pledged his support for either party. But I have seen a lot of that on several issues. That stuff drives people further the other way than actually changing their viewpoint. 

Chris Pratt is almost definitely a Republican. 

Also people call him scum because the church he goes to is incredibly right wing, opposed to gay marriage, anti-abortion etc. I'm not saying Pratt himself holds those beliefs, but it says a lot about a person's character if that's the company they choose to keep. 

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A true story that made me chuckle to myself today

 It was that time of year where I had to complete some mandatory training of which a lot of it is online (Defence Learning Environment or DLE) So I finished my unconscious bias awareness but for some reason I couldn’t print out the results to prove I had done it. My RSM (From the Welsh Guards) said and I quote “ With me being English he doesn’t trust me “ and now I have to do it again. And yet somehow he doesn’t see the irony in that 🤷‍♂️

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I'm not so sure about Pennsylvania still but it's maybe worth saying that I think (based on some back of a fag packet maths) if the current trend of the absentee ballots held then Biden would win the state by about 240,000 votes, despite being currently about 160,000 votes behind.

The current trend of the mail-in ballots is nearly 80% in Biden's favour though, which doesn't even come close to matching up to the rest of the vote there. I suspect that there's quite a lot more Trump votes that are still to be counted. There's about 700,000 votes still estimated to be counted there (working from NYTimes figures) and I think Biden needs to take more than 60% of that to even be in contention.

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11 minutes ago, wilsoncgp said:

I'm not so sure about Pennsylvania still but it's maybe worth saying that I think (based on some back of a fag packet maths) if the current trend of the absentee ballots held then Biden would win the state by about 240,000 votes, despite being currently about 160,000 votes behind.

The current trend of the mail-in ballots is nearly 80% in Biden's favour though, which doesn't even come close to matching up to the rest of the vote there. I suspect that there's quite a lot more Trump votes that are still to be counted. There's about 700,000 votes still estimated to be counted there (working from NYTimes figures) and I think Biden needs to take more than 60% of that to even be in contention.

Bernie Sanders predicted this exact scenario - down to the right states. Dems are far more likely to mail-vote and Republicans are far more likely to vote in person. Big cities tend to be blue too. The earlier it's 'called' the more likely it would benefit Trump. 

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I saw that bit with Jimmy Fallon he did where he called the whole thing, it was mad.

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