Jamie-H 1,322 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Bojan coming in will signal us going back to 4231 problem then becomes unless Karanka sees Ramirez wide with Snodgrass then suddenly Ramirez is warming the bench. I'm not overjoyed with Snodgrass I think he's overrated beyond his deadball quality he tends to turn it on and off quite a bit. But saying that like Bamford/Gestede he's a safe signing if we go down they're the players we'll need to fire us back up. Still find it strange that since the summer the only central midfield reinforcement we've sought has been De Ron I still think we are 1 short there but that doesn't seem to be a target at all for Karanka. how much are we crying out for a deadball specialist though really. Fischers assist for the goal against west ham was probably the last time we put in a good cross from a set piece haha. I mean Ramirez from free kicks has been brilliant for us but our corners have been horrendous for a long time that's where I can see Snodgrass making a difference I'd still prefer Ramirez taking the close range free kicks, if he's still here that is. My guess is we'll want to move Rhodes on before we put in the bid for Bojan though, if we do get 9 mill for Rhodes that will basically pay for Bojan which is great business in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
Will 2,958 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 It's weird that the Burke story is sticking around. I have tweeted the Gazette to ask about the 2 club rule, but they haven't responded. The only thing I can think is it might be some loophole in the international loan system that he could play for three, it's a terribly regulated system that was slightly improved to prevent teams like Watford taking the ***. Link to post Share on other sites
BillyWoofs_shinpad 1,884 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 It's weird that the Burke story is sticking around. I have tweeted the Gazette to ask about the 2 club rule, but they haven't responded. The only thing I can think is it might be some loophole in the international loan system that he could play for three, it's a terribly regulated system that was slightly improved to prevent teams like Watford taking the ***. It's an international ruling, so I doubt that there is a loophole. Either it's an oversight by the club, or a made up rumour, I would suggest. Link to post Share on other sites
estonpidge 1,442 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 It's weird that the Burke story is sticking around. I have tweeted the Gazette to ask about the 2 club rule, but they haven't responded. The only thing I can think is it might be some loophole in the international loan system that he could play for three, it's a terribly regulated system that was slightly improved to prevent teams like Watford taking the ***. If we're in for him then there must be a loop hole, otherwise we're not in for him as we know all about the rule (Adama) Link to post Share on other sites
juninho9 35 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Deadline day and full fixtures on the same day expect next Tuesday night to be fairly quiet with most of the last minute deals going through earlier than normal Ideally then we could have a couple new players in before the WBA game itself. Link to post Share on other sites
estonpidge 1,442 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I'd like to think our buying will be done by the 30th, there may be few loans go out on the 31st, but can't see any sales happening from here on, unless it's Gaston. Edit: that should get them flying out the door. Link to post Share on other sites
richmfc 41 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Am I missing something here or is Bojan a winger because the Gazette keep on going on like he's a winger He's not a winger so I hope we're not signing him as that Yeah I hope so too, I know it doesn't mean he's necessarily coming in as a winger but the amount of times they've said things such as "Boro are keen to sign a WINGER before next Tuesday's transfer deadline, with Stoke's BOJAN and PSG starlet Jese Rodriguez both being monitored." And now they've just done a poll saying which winger would you like to see join Boro in January? Bojan, Snodgrass or Deulofeu? From what I can gather bojan was brilliant when playing no10 but since his injury has been played out of position which is why his form has suffered. So I hope we are getting him as a 10. Karanka has mentioned a few times he wants pace out wide so I'd guess we are in for a fast winger somewhere Link to post Share on other sites
LinoJo3 3,098 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Either that or he could play the David villa position from back in the Barca days coming inside from the left. Link to post Share on other sites
Birdie 83 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Bojan coming in will signal us going back to 4231 problem then becomes unless Karanka sees Ramirez wide with Snodgrass then suddenly Ramirez is warming the bench. I'm not overjoyed with Snodgrass I think he's overrated beyond his deadball quality he tends to turn it on and off quite a bit. But saying that like Bamford/Gestede he's a safe signing if we go down they're the players we'll need to fire us back up. Still find it strange that since the summer the only central midfield reinforcement we've sought has been De Ron I still think we are 1 short there but that doesn't seem to be a target at all for Karanka. how much are we crying out for a deadball specialist though really. Fischers assist for the goal against west ham was probably the last time we put in a good cross from a set piece haha. I mean Ramirez from free kicks has been brilliant for us but our corners have been horrendous for a long time that's where I can see Snodgrass making a difference I'd still prefer Ramirez taking the close range free kicks, if he's still here that is. My guess is we'll want to move Rhodes on before we put in the bid for Bojan though, if we do get 9 mill for Rhodes that will basically pay for Bojan which is great business in my opinion. Isn't de Saart also a midfielder? Wasn't Fischer an AM at his last club? Link to post Share on other sites
Downsouth 6,175 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Share Posted January 23, 2017 In all honesty I think we have a lot more to come from Fischer in terms of multiple starting positions Link to post Share on other sites
2plus2 290 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 All the talk has been about wingers. So unless Ramirez leaves (which I still think is unlikely) then it seems likely that Bojan is going to be out on the wing. And to be fair he can run with the ball at reasonable pace (ok, not super fast, but he does have it in his game). Back to the 'inside forward' argument I guess. My guess would be Bojan and Ramirez behind Negredo in a 4-3-3 and from right to left; Snodgrass, Ramirez and Bojan behind Negredo in a 4-2-3-1. And those two to close our January business, aside from outgoings. Link to post Share on other sites
BoroDave4 974 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 All the talk has been about wingers. So unless Ramirez leaves (which I still think is unlikely) then it seems likely that Bojan is going to be out on the wing. And to be fair he can run with the ball at reasonable pace (ok, not super fast, but he does have it in his game). Back to the 'inside forward' argument I guess. My guess would be Bojan and Ramirez behind Negredo in a 4-3-3 and from right to left; Snodgrass, Ramirez and Bojan behind Negredo in a 4-2-3-1. And those two to close our January business, aside from outgoings. Year me too. And to be honest, Bamford, Gestede, Bojan and Snoddy and keeping a happy Gaston would be a pretty successful window for me. Not a perfect one, but still a good one. Link to post Share on other sites
UglyBanana 2 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Isn't de Saart also a midfielder? Wasn't Fischer an AM at his last club? He's played a few games in the centre in the past, as AM, SS and CF. Not even close to how many he's played at LW though. I rate Fischer quite a lot, so I hope he can come back and make an impact for the team. Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy 140 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 All the talk has been about wingers. So unless Ramirez leaves (which I still think is unlikely) then it seems likely that Bojan is going to be out on the wing. And to be fair he can run with the ball at reasonable pace (ok, not super fast, but he does have it in his game). Back to the 'inside forward' argument I guess. My guess would be Bojan and Ramirez behind Negredo in a 4-3-3 and from right to left; Snodgrass, Ramirez and Bojan behind Negredo in a 4-2-3-1. And those two to close our January business, aside from outgoings. Year me too. And to be honest, Bamford, Gestede, Bojan and Snoddy and keeping a happy Gaston would be a pretty successful window for me. Not a perfect one, but still a good one. Yeah this. Really hope he reverts back to 4-2-3-1, especially when playing at home. 4-3-3 with three defensive mids with little creativity is where our problem has lied in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
BoroDave4 974 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 All the talk has been about wingers. So unless Ramirez leaves (which I still think is unlikely) then it seems likely that Bojan is going to be out on the wing. And to be fair he can run with the ball at reasonable pace (ok, not super fast, but he does have it in his game). Back to the 'inside forward' argument I guess. My guess would be Bojan and Ramirez behind Negredo in a 4-3-3 and from right to left; Snodgrass, Ramirez and Bojan behind Negredo in a 4-2-3-1. And those two to close our January business, aside from outgoings. Year me too. And to be honest, Bamford, Gestede, Bojan and Snoddy and keeping a happy Gaston would be a pretty successful window for me. Not a perfect one, but still a good one. Yeah this. Really hope he reverts back to 4-2-3-1, especially when playing at home. 4-3-3 with three defensive mids with little creativity is where our problem has lied in my opinion. It's a tricky one because from my view we've actually been able to dominate the Centre of the pitch, or win the midfield battle if you will, in a fair few games this season. The problem is that we really don't have enough ability to do enough with the possession we earn. And the more Forshaw has played the more he has started becoming a defensive midfielder rather than the more box to box he started as. I think they're both good formations to be comfortable with and to cater to our opponents a bit. I'd say we are more likely to see 433 week by week but there have been games we've played that I certainly would have liked to see us go back to 4231. Link to post Share on other sites
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