wilsoncgp 9,230 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Positive exposure Including when it's not earned? Including when it's not the view of the paper? I think there's generally a balanced view, if not a slightly positive spin. I don't think it' borders on the sycophantic personally but i can so why many think it does given the Teesside mentality of playing everything down. The Gazette is not a PR machine for the club, i think thats become pretty clear over the last few months. Yeah, those past few months when the club started slapping their hands too. Going from what we've heard, this isn't something that started recently. This is something that started at the very least 2 months ago with the Orta article. Don't get me wrong. This is the Gazette I want. The paper that pulls the club up on *** that they try to pull. But I'm not convinced that the club is wrong to feel so aggrieved given, it seems to me, that the paper made a deal with the devil and are now feeling that hellish touch on their shoulder. Link to post Share on other sites
Birdie 83 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 I don't read the Gazette, just this forum. Plenty of info and opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
Humpty 3,242 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 I don't read the Gazette, just this forum. Plenty of info and opinion. Which of KM's persons do you find the most informative :D Link to post Share on other sites
Arskite 75 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Must admit I agree that this will probably result in more objectivity from the Gazette in future. At least I hope so, or they might just go maniacal like they did with the Karanka/Orta pieces. Maybe they'll actually start doing some real journalism again, and *** what the club thinks. I certainly won't miss them stringing out every sentence in the manager's press conference into separate, long-winded, uninteresting articles. I've been watching the press conference on the club website/YouTube since before this all kicked off, as you just get what the manager says verbatim. Link to post Share on other sites
Pork Slops 576 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 I don't read the Gazette, just this forum. Plenty of info and opinion. Which of KM's persons do you find the most informative :D The one that thinks Harry Maguire is poo. Link to post Share on other sites
Jonny Ingbar 288 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 I think the current situation is not an all together unhealthy one, given that there should be some tension between the club and the paper, otherwise the latters reporting of all thing Boro becomes less objective and less challenging. I think the Gazette would want to protect and promote journalistic integrity and the club would want to maximise positive PR and an opportunity to promote their brand. Both can be achieved. The relationship should be respectful and mutually beneficial, but that requires some tact and comprimise from both parties. Link to post Share on other sites
"KM" 1,656 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 I don't read the Gazette, just this forum. Plenty of info and opinion. Which of KM's persons do you find the most informative :D All of them. :P Link to post Share on other sites
richmfc 41 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 I don't read the Gazette, just this forum. Plenty of info and opinion. Which of KM's persons do you find the most informative :D All of them. :P Think we've found third personality.......one that reads the other twos replies :) Link to post Share on other sites
Nauser 35 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Not sure if this has been posted yet, but I've got a theory that the whole Gazette vs Boro debacle might be down to the Gazette revealing the price Girona paid for Bernardo. Boro posted this on their site, and it states the fee is undisclosed: http://www.mfc.co.uk/news/bernardo-moves-on The Gazette, via Dominic Shaw, posted that the fee was 4m: http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bernardo-espinosa-several-offers-before-13314201 Now, with Stuani also moving to Girona, Boro have said that the fee can't be disclosed due to a privacy clause: http://www.mfc.co.uk/news/cristhian-stuani-makes-move-to-la-liga Maybe Boro don't want Dominic Shaw to be involved with match day interviews due to his breaking of the privacy clause on the Bernardo transfer? Admittedly, you'd also have to hold accountable the person that told Shaw about the fee, so Boro aren't wholly clean, but the links seem to add up. Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it :) Link to post Share on other sites
Will 2,958 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Not sure if this has been posted yet, but I've got a theory that the whole Gazette vs Boro debacle might be down to the Gazette revealing the price Girona paid for Bernardo. Boro posted this on their site, and it states the fee is undisclosed: http://www.mfc.co.uk/news/bernardo-moves-on The Gazette, via Dominic Shaw, posted that the fee was 4m: http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bernardo-espinosa-several-offers-before-13314201 Now, with Stuani also moving to Girona, Boro have said that the fee can't be disclosed due to a privacy clause: http://www.mfc.co.uk/news/cristhian-stuani-makes-move-to-la-liga Maybe Boro don't want Dominic Shaw to be involved with match day interviews due to his breaking of the privacy clause on the Bernardo transfer? Admittedly, you'd also have to hold accountable the person that told Shaw about the fee, so Boro aren't wholly clean, but the links seem to add up. Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it :) The Gazette only published that fee after it was widely reported in Spain IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites
Nauser 35 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Not sure if this has been posted yet, but I've got a theory that the whole Gazette vs Boro debacle might be down to the Gazette revealing the price Girona paid for Bernardo. Boro posted this on their site, and it states the fee is undisclosed: http://www.mfc.co.uk/news/bernardo-moves-on The Gazette, via Dominic Shaw, posted that the fee was 4m: http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bernardo-espinosa-several-offers-before-13314201 Now, with Stuani also moving to Girona, Boro have said that the fee can't be disclosed due to a privacy clause: http://www.mfc.co.uk/news/cristhian-stuani-makes-move-to-la-liga Maybe Boro don't want Dominic Shaw to be involved with match day interviews due to his breaking of the privacy clause on the Bernardo transfer? Admittedly, you'd also have to hold accountable the person that told Shaw about the fee, so Boro aren't wholly clean, but the links seem to add up. Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it :) The Gazette only published that fee after it was widely reported in Spain IIRC. If that's the case then there goes my theory! Oh well lol Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,952 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Not sure if this has been posted yet, but I've got a theory that the whole Gazette vs Boro debacle might be down to the Gazette revealing the price Girona paid for Bernardo. Boro posted this on their site, and it states the fee is undisclosed: http://www.mfc.co.uk/news/bernardo-moves-on The Gazette, via Dominic Shaw, posted that the fee was 4m: http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bernardo-espinosa-several-offers-before-13314201 Now, with Stuani also moving to Girona, Boro have said that the fee can't be disclosed due to a privacy clause: http://www.mfc.co.uk/news/cristhian-stuani-makes-move-to-la-liga Maybe Boro don't want Dominic Shaw to be involved with match day interviews due to his breaking of the privacy clause on the Bernardo transfer? Admittedly, you'd also have to hold accountable the person that told Shaw about the fee, so Boro aren't wholly clean, but the links seem to add up. Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it :) The Gazette only published that fee after it was widely reported in Spain IIRC. If that's the case then there goes my theory! Oh well lol Also Shaw hasn't been allowed near interviews since Monks appointment. Link to post Share on other sites
JMC91 280 Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Danny Kelly talking about Boro and the Gazette on talksport at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites
BearSmog 1,382 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Gazette have put an update to this on their site this morning.. Divides definitely growing further apart Link to post Share on other sites
BearSmog 1,382 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Boro press box ban for two Gazette reporters http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/middlesbrough-fc-press-box-ban-13408516#ICID=Android_GazetteLiveNewApp_AppShare Link to post Share on other sites
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