richmfc 41 11.1k Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 We are not barcelona and do not have the same quality! I'm not criticising his changes, I'm criticising our formation of starting defensively with 3 holding midfielders. Is it just me that can see that it doesnt/never will work for us? Pretty much, although Lino usually agrees with you on most things. You say that we can't play 433 even though it's been successful for many teams, because we don't have the quality of players. Surely that suggests that there is nothing wrong with 433 as a system, but there is something wrong with the players that we have. But are we really saying our players aren't good enough and our way of playing won't work e first game of the season. Let's give it a bit more of a go than 90 mins with new players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northern boro 452 10.4k Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 'Boro will get stronger', 'our best is still to come' The Gazette won't publish quotes from Monk due to the restrictions placed on 2 journalists http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/garry-monk-claims-middlesbrough-only-13437214 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Boro_Till_I_Die 1,477 4.4k Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Braithwaite didn't do anything for me. I couldn't believe he missed. Still early days and not worried. Bamford played alot better than Fletcher. We need two wingers, a centre half and a creative midfielder for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo Kev 1,819 6.4k Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Braithwaite didn't do anything for me. I couldn't believe he missed. Still early days and not worried. Bamford played alot better than Fletcher. We need two wingers, a centre half and a creative midfielder for me we need the right players to fit monks system which doest involve attacking midfielders or wingers it appears. de roon can do one, he wants away imo. forshaw was better than howson and de roon. bamford right britt center and fletch or braith left. with forshaw and howson cm clayton behind. back 4 were sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam P 535 1.9k Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Massive over-reaction to an Ayala mistake on here, granted it was an awful one, but Friend, Gibbo, Dimi etc have made plenty of mistakes over the years. As Clayton said, he's still one of the best CB's in this division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoroDave4 1,655 3.5k Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Massive over-reaction to an Ayala mistake on here, granted it was an awful one, but Friend, Gibbo, Dimi etc have made plenty of mistakes over the years. As Clayton said, he's still one of the best CB's in this division. He *can be* but he's got no right to be considered one at the moment. Dunno if he needs confidence or game time but he doesn't look half the player he was before his "injury issues." On song he's an excellent defender at this level, Monk's got to figure out what he needs to do to get that player back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northern boro 452 10.4k Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 @GarryMonk Felt the players deserved something from this first game, but long season with plenty of points to play for. Thanks to the away fans. #UTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsoncgp 10,212 20k Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 All things considered, I've not heard about Ayala having a terrible game. Nor did he have a bad game last week either, in fact he had a really good game. One mistake in this game that plenty like myself probably didn't even watch and people are going mad saying he's lost it. He had a bad season last season, didn't appear in as many games as we would have liked him to and games like the Wednesday game, you wonder what was going on in his head to make such a silly challenge. Something wasn't right under the last manager, for sure. But I've seen nothing that suggests he's lost his head so far this season. Certainly not enough to say get shot of him. Do people really want Baptiste or Fry in ahead of him? Or even Shotton? I'm pretty sure I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duvel 2,446 5.6k Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Ayala was poor last season but he never had a consistent run in the team. There's no doubt at this level he's a great defender and we'd be daft to sell him, especially in a position with very little depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2plus2 293 6.8k Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Just think, this time next week this forum will be in uproar after we get battered at Wolves. The summer has flown by really. Sadly, I think you might be on to something there. Tough opening fixture. Bump. Arguably the toughest opening fixture we could have had. I'm confident we're still in for a good season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mendieta420 1,250 2.6k Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 de roon had yakubu levels of commitment today, looked much better with forshaw. overall their wingbacks formation completely cucked our 343 and we had no out ball. i dont think many teams will play that formation so i wouldnt panic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinoJo3 5,822 13.6k Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Yea your right de roon replaced leadbitter not Clayton. If we don't sign any new cm then I think the midfield has to be forshaw and one other, drop the 3rd cm and bring in Jota or someone like him to play between the lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeBee 84 407 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Ayala will more than make up for that mistake over the course of the season Assombolonga and Bamford looked sharp, play them both and we will get goals. Would much prefer to see us revert to our old shape, struggled to move the ball out from the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foogle 2,228 3.6k Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 To be honest I'd prefer to play Leadbitter than De Roon, at least he can pass the ball and take set pieces... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayeres 137 1k Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Positives: - We only lost by 1 goal. Goal-difference is important, even more important than points some would say. Negatives: - We lost. Obviously not a big deal, as it's the first game of the season, and there's absolutely no way in hell those points might mean the difference between promotion/play-offs.... - We don't have a player at the club that is deemed more capable than Clayton in taking set-pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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