Duvel 2,446 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 First BoroFanTV, now this... https://www.gofundme.com/garry-monk-out-fly-by-banner Think I'll donate £20 to this! Link to post Share on other sites
tylergomez 53 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I still can't understand the 'bring Karanka back' thing. People continue to forget he wasn't pushed out because of results, it's what was going on underneath. Most of the squad is still here from then. Nobody who doesn't want him back is denying that he was very good at this level but it's not like Dyche and Burnley. If Aitor had the same kind of relationship with his players as Dyche did, he would not have been sacked for relegating us, he would have been trusted to rebuild and go again, I have absolutely zero doubts about that in my mind. Monk and co. may have been a bad decision from Gibson. Karanka back would be worse. Let me start by saying that going back is rarely a good idea. But... I can’t agree that Karanka would be worse. I know he had fallings out with players but he was often very good at what he did. I would say he would get he back four sorted. Help Gibson get back to his best. Build the confidence of Ayala (maybe) or Fry/Shotton. He would help Christie become a better defender. Maybe even reinstate a fully firing Friend. He would bring back Clayton to cover the defence. And help make us harder to beat. He would probably give Bamford a run of games and build his confidence. Downing would be one who would likely suffer. But he could get the best out of Braithwaite if he allowed him to play like Tomlin/Ramirez when they were doing their thing. He is very much like Mourinho in his approach. Mourinho falls out with players. He did at Chelsea. They took him back a few years later and he won the league. I know it went pair shaped after that but as a short term fix he got them playing to their strengths again. As I believe Karanka would. Link to post Share on other sites
edinboro 815 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 This squad needs coaching and to be given instructions they can follow. Monk, as he almost admitted last night, is incapable of doing that. So Mr Gibson needs to find someone who can keep it simple and get this lot playing football. We’re still a club people want to come to. There will be coaches out there who’d jump at the chance. It needs to be an experienced head I think. It’s up to Gibson/Gill/Bausor to find them. But one thing is certain. We are going backwards at the moment and that should be clear to everyone. Similar to Everton before Sam. We should be able to pull this together Link to post Share on other sites
Randy Sandwich 209 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 First BoroFanTV, now this... https://www.gofundme.com/garry-monk-out-fly-by-banner Think I'll donate £20 to this! Really? Link to post Share on other sites
tylergomez 53 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 First BoroFanTV, now this... https://www.gofundme.com/garry-monk-out-fly-by-banner Think I'll donate £20 to this! Really? Agreed. What exactly would it achieve? It would have zero positive effect on the players/management/performance. If you want to show your unhappiness go to a game and boo (at the end) or write to Steve Gibson personally, expressing your displeasure. Or choose to not go to the games as a show of discontent. I just think these fly by things are a pile of ***. Link to post Share on other sites
Duvel 2,446 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 First BoroFanTV, now this... https://www.gofundme.com/garry-monk-out-fly-by-banner Think I'll donate £20 to this! Really? No I'm joking, I hope this isn't what it has to resort to for Gibson to wake up though. I wonder whether he has any idea that the fans are fed up or is he so detached from everything that he's got no idea. Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,347 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Starting to act like Mackems and Geordies now :( Will there be even lower depths that we can sink to? Link to post Share on other sites
Changing Times 12,347 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I still can't understand the 'bring Karanka back' thing. People continue to forget he wasn't pushed out because of results, it's what was going on underneath. Most of the squad is still here from then. Nobody who doesn't want him back is denying that he was very good at this level but it's not like Dyche and Burnley. If Aitor had the same kind of relationship with his players as Dyche did, he would not have been sacked for relegating us, he would have been trusted to rebuild and go again, I have absolutely zero doubts about that in my mind. Monk and co. may have been a bad decision from Gibson. Karanka back would be worse. Spot on. To add some more. We won 5 games last season, which is now one fewer than Huddersfield have managed in just less than half a season. We were ***ing abysmal, it was one of the worst seasons in our history regardless of what level we were playing at. Karanka had more fall outs here than the Nevada desert, even when we were actually doing well and on the verge of promotion. This isn't a choice between Monk and Karanka, it's simply about finding the right manager for us to move forward, whoever that is. It may still be Monk, as unlikely as it's looking at the moment, but it certainly isn't Karanka. Link to post Share on other sites
Duvel 2,446 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Starting to act like Mackems and Geordies now :( Will there be even lower depths that we can sink to? Using soiled bedsheets as banners and misspelling the messages? Link to post Share on other sites
Randy Sandwich 209 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 First BoroFanTV, now this... https://www.gofundme.com/garry-monk-out-fly-by-banner Think I'll donate £20 to this! Really? No I'm joking, I hope this isn't what it has to resort to for Gibson to wake up though. I wonder whether he has any idea that the fans are fed up or is he so detached from everything that he's got no idea. He might be busy polishing his halo Link to post Share on other sites
richmfc 41 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Huddersfield have as many wins already than we got last yr. so shouldn’t we be looking for the next Wagner not the old Karanka Link to post Share on other sites
northern boro 449 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 First BoroFanTV, now this... https://www.gofundme.com/garry-monk-out-fly-by-banner Link doesn't work Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,283 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 First BoroFanTV, now this... https://www.gofundme.com/garry-monk-out-fly-by-banner Think I'll donate £20 to this! Really? No I'm joking, I hope this isn't what it has to resort to for Gibson to wake up though. I wonder whether he has any idea that the fans are fed up or is he so detached from everything that he's got no idea. I find it very hard to believe that he wouldn't know the fans are fed up. He's attended God knows how many games at the Riverside, he'll know what kind of mood the fans are in. Link to post Share on other sites
wilsoncgp 9,283 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 First BoroFanTV, now this... https://www.gofundme.com/garry-monk-out-fly-by-banner Link doesn't work Good, the lad probably took it down. Link to post Share on other sites
northern boro 449 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 The Sun have picked up on the story though the page is no longer live https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/5159190/middlesbrough-fan-gofundme-page-fly-garry-monk-out-banner-riverside-boxing-day/?utm_source=TWITTER&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=SprnklrSUNOrganic&UTMX=Editorial:TheSunFootball:TwImageandlink:Statement:Sport Link to post Share on other sites
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