mackie2424 157 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 @DK - When considering Wingers as midfielders, I certainly didn't contradict myself. Assombalonga doesn't have energy, but there's no point wasting it when you don't have anyone in support. Even with Braithwaite there, that's 2 against a back 4/5. Someone on the right flank getting forward in a similar vein, plus McNair - who's arguably become more forward thinking than any of our options or Besic -bursting forward late does start to combat that and break the gap between the banks ignoring players in our current system. If Besic came in for his traditional role as a holding mid with McNair and Howson ahead of him, I'd be game. Clayton would perhaps be needed in games where we need to break up the oppositions flow a bit more, but Besic could also play the box-to-box role we saw last term in that system too. My problem is that I don't see us being linked with a better striker than Assombalonga. If it was Hugill for Gestede, I'd be entirely up for that; he's a better version of what we have. But if we sign a striker, I'm all-but convinced that The Ass won't be here come the end of the window - and I'd not be willing to sacrifice what he brings simply for an upgrade on Gestede which means we'd only be able to play with one dynamic. CM would probably be 4th on my Priority List. ST I'm loathed to include a as I'm convinced it'd be a Britt replacement... And I don't see that being an improvement in terms of quality. I agree with pretty much all of this. Good post. :cheese: Link to post Share on other sites
Alves car salesman 152 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Danny Bathh linked on twitter as Gibbo replacement Link to post Share on other sites
Tudders80 674 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 15 gibbo, 10 bamford, 20+ adama. That's 45 million. My guess, we won't spend 25mill. Link to post Share on other sites
Ayresome7 187 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Danny Bathh linked on twitter as Gibbo replacement It was reported on Twitter Wolves offered 18m in installments for Traore plus Danny Bathh but we rejected. Link to post Share on other sites
Ayresome7 187 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 15 gibbo, 10 bamford, 20+ adama. That's 45 million. My guess, we won't spend 25mill. Including an additional parachute payment of approximately 35m. Link to post Share on other sites
ABH 470 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 15 gibbo, 10 bamford, 20+ adama. That's 45 million. My guess, we won't spend 25mill. Including an additional parachute payment of approximately 35m. And a wage bill of approximately £40m Link to post Share on other sites
Boroboy1980 6 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Speed kills. Now we don’t have any. And £10m doesn’t get you much nowadays unfortunately. This is a sad day. My 5 year old loved having the fastest player in the country play for us. Time to break the news. Link to post Share on other sites
Lurker 2,118 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 15 gibbo, 10 bamford, 20+ adama. That's 45 million. My guess, we won't spend 25mill. We’ve already spent nearly £10m on McNair and Flint. Bamford was £7m rising to £10m so knock £3m off that Link to post Share on other sites
jamesp 125 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Mad how we didn’t try to use someone like Douglas as part of the Traore deal mind Link to post Share on other sites
Will 2,958 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Am I the only one who saw the + sign after £20m on Adama’s fee? Having negotiated it we almost definitely have a sell on now, it spreads our income nicely for the next few windows to lessen the impact of losing parachute payments if necessary. Saw it reported as 26m elsewhere Same, which isn't too far off the deal i suggested yesterday. Just thinking about it, I'm fairly confident Villa's cut only comes from the guaranteed part of the payments from Wolves (upfront fee and any future guaranteed payments) not from performance related factors and definitely not from any future sell on fee. Perhaps we've been a bit clever and put significant portions of the payments as performance related bonuses but ones that will definitely get met (e.g a payment after he makes 10 appearances, a payment after his first goal) to try and avoid giving Villa a huge sum. Link to post Share on other sites
Will 2,958 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Mad how we didn’t try to use someone like Douglas as part of the Traore deal mind We have no idea if we did or even if we would want him. What if Wolves wanted £10m knocked off the fee for Adama for Douglas? Link to post Share on other sites
Brunners 7,982 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Am I the only one who saw the + sign after £20m on Adama’s fee? Having negotiated it we almost definitely have a sell on now, it spreads our income nicely for the next few windows to lessen the impact of losing parachute payments if necessary. we may have a sell on but I think the + is because there are performance related add ons involved. as someone else said it's been reported it's up to 26m. Link to post Share on other sites
Jimmy 140 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Mad how we didn’t try to use someone like Douglas as part of the Traore deal mind Agree with this. Need a LB, best LB in the league. Should have been negotiated into a deal. Link to post Share on other sites
Will 2,958 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Am I the only one who saw the + sign after £20m on Adama’s fee? Having negotiated it we almost definitely have a sell on now, it spreads our income nicely for the next few windows to lessen the impact of losing parachute payments if necessary. we may have a sell on but I think the + is because there are performance related add ons involved. as someone else said it's been reported it's up to 26m. Just posted this; Just thinking about it, I'm fairly confident Villa's cut only comes from the guaranteed part of the payments from Wolves (upfront fee and any future guaranteed payments) not from performance related factors and definitely not from any future sell on fee. Perhaps we've been a bit clever and put significant portions of the payments as performance related bonuses but ones that will definitely get met (e.g a payment after he makes 10 appearances, a payment after his first goal) to try and avoid giving Villa a huge sum. Link to post Share on other sites
Foogle 2,104 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Don't even know who we can look to sign to play wide now? Whack some money at Snodgrass? Link to post Share on other sites
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